Not really “powertripping”. Just pathetic. Consider this a notice to avoid feddit.org… I’ve unsubbed and blocked the instance.

We can’t dehumanize fascists for their choice to dehumanize everyone for things outside their control though, because that would be mean, and hurt their sociopath feefees!

Europe stool idly by throughout the 1930’s “tolerating” fascism, and the Nazi’s killed over 100 million people. Don’t make the same mistake as the radical centrists of history. Fascists will not afford you the same tolerance or courtesy.

  • FelixCress@lemmy.world
    21·
    5 days ago

    Systematic mass killing of Jews started in 1941, but it wasn’t something that was off the table until “plans were drafted” to do something that they hadn’t been ramping up towards

    I wasn’t planning to have historical debate here but you are clearly misinforming anyone who reads your comments.

    “Final solution” — mass murder — wasn’t planned until 1941 and in 1940 Nazis were still toying with the idea of mass deportations to Madagascar instead.

    Just remind me, what is Trump trying to do at the moment?

    Not even sure what to make of this.

    Go figure.

    • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
      32·
      4 days ago

      Holocaust as a mass murder wasn’t planned until 1941

      400,000 people were sterilized in 1933. Gas vans were killing mental patients in 1939. The Einsatzgruppen were traveling with the army in 1939, shooting Jews en masse in some cases. “Aktion T4” was put into practice in 1940, also with mental patients. Eugenics scholars had been talking about exterminating those with inferior genes since 1920. The deportation to Madagascar was talked about under the assumption that the harsh conditions and lack of civilization would leave most of the Jews to die “naturally.” Deliberate starvation in the ghettos killed tens of thousands of Jews before a formalized “final solution” was planned for. And so on.

      Not sure how you got that my “ramping up” description was misinforming people. That’s what happened. As much fun as this is, I have completed as much of this conversation as I want to have.

      • FelixCress@lemmy.world
        22·
        5 days ago

        400,000 people were sterilized in 1933. (…)

        Again, your point is? Mass murder of Jews wasn’t planned until 1941. In 1940 Nazis were planning mass deportations to Madagascar. These are facts, I am not sure what is you are trying to achieve here?

        Furthermore, your comments only support my point as the goals escalate: Trump is attempting mass deportations now - like nazis were going to just before Final Solution

        If someone was to kill Hitler, neither WW2 nor Final Solution would have happened.

        • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
          32·
          4 days ago

          Actually, hold on. Maybe you’ll lose focus if I mention the mental patients.

          The Einsatzgruppen were traveling with the army in 1939, shooting Jews en masse in some cases. The deportation to Madagascar was talked about under the assumption that the harsh conditions and lack of civilization would leave most of the Jews to die “naturally.” Deliberate starvation in the ghettos killed tens of thousands of Jews before a formalized “final solution” was planned for. And so on.

          How’s that?

        • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
          32·
          4 days ago

          Sure, let me try one more time.

          Gas vans were killing mental patients in 1939. The Einsatzgruppen were traveling with the army in 1939, shooting Jews en masse in some cases. “Aktion T4” was put into practice in 1940, also with mental patients. The deportation to Madagascar was talked about under the assumption that the harsh conditions and lack of civilization would leave most of the Jews to die “naturally.” Deliberate starvation in the ghettos killed tens of thousands of Jews before a formalized “final solution” was planned for. And so on.

          Happier with that presentation? It concerns mass murder only, I removed the two sentences that added additional context but not specific actions of mass murder.

          • FelixCress@lemmy.world
            22·
            5 days ago

            Again, what is your fucking point here?

            That Nazis planned Final Solution before 1941? That’s not true or at least historians didn’t find any traces of that.

            That political goals escalate and mass murder start with smaller goals? Yes, 100%:

            Hitler started with eradicating Jews from public life, then planning to deport them, then murdering them.

            Trump started with eradicating migrants from public life, he is now deporting them. Go figure what’s next.

            Hitler wasn’t assassinated before he started a war killing millions. There was a chance but it didn’t happen. Killing a potential mass murderer is definitely a lesser evil.