Disgusting. Fuck this dude.
That’s not Fetterman, Fetterman died.
The “Brain damage made me conservative” guy weighing in again.
This matches up with him saying “good night” as his very first line in that debate.
That was an oopsie, but now he seems to have taken the conservative route of, identify with saying the opposite of reality instead of getting better at stating reality.
What a piece of shit, pardoning Trump would do nothing to slow him down from destroying every social advancement made since 1920.
This dude needs to be ‘primaried’ back to the stone age.
How bad was his stroke?
See the “some more news” video on this guy. He was probably conservative all along but hid it well till recently
Not bad enough apparently. It would have been better for us if he wasn’t active politically anymore.
Stroking himself all the way to the bank
He was never a democrat, people just love a scammer. He his that, passed a lot of money through his organization.
He was though, in his presentation at least. I still remember him giving this interview in front of a Wawa off the freeway when he was first gaining national prominence - message that felt so strongly progressive yet could be so really absorbed by the broader population.
Fetterman died from that stroke, this is John NOTOURman
He seemed more like a maga person when he chased a black for going on a run.
At the height of the presidential election campaign, I got down voted for pointing out at Fetterman and Tulsi Gabbard as examples that there are Democrats who flip, because they rail on “vote blue no matter who”. After Trump won his second term, I don’t see those die-hard types anymore. They finally admit that the Democratic party is compromised through and through, and that only a progressive takeover of the party will solve the problems that arose.
the Democratic party is compromised through and through
Always has been.
The problem is people are trying to beat republicans by being just like them. Republicans stand or kill their own. That created Trump, dems want to do the samething. Normal people need to start running again and need support.
The days of trying to court both sides and moderates have long gone past. It now requires more radical changes. If Democrats indeed want to win again, they have to go further left. The Republicans have rightly deduced that people want drastic change so they are unafraid to go further right (probably also because of influence from the Tea Party movement). Democrats need to go more populist like the Republicans have.
If Democrats indeed want to win again, they have to go further left.
The basic problem is that the Democratic Party isn’t at all inclined to go left. The people who run it and fund it want a centre-right party to be the only alternative to the far-right party. Left-wing politics doesn’t funnel the money to where they want it to be. So the best they can do is tease people with a vague promise of progressivism, in order to win votes, but with no real intention or commitnent to deliver on it.
Problem is, the nightmare scenario of a second Trump term has already arrived. I don’t know if there will be further elections, I assume there will be and act as such. If there are then guess what? The nightmare is already here, and the disaster is already actively destroying the country, so tax credits for starting a small business or whatever the fuck aren’t cutting it anymore. I want actual governmental reform.
They can either go left or they can fuck right off. Absolutely nobody will buy the “most important election of our lifetimes” bullshit again after whatever happens next year.
There will continue to be elections. They just won’t be free and fair, particularly in states with Republican control.
Well let’s hope it wakes them up. I’m sure there are senior Democrats thinking, “Trump will make a mess and anger people, so we’ll just ride this out until we can get reelected then back to business as usual.” And “He won’t abolish/undermine elections -that’s just talk.” Some of them will never learn, because they deeply don’t want to.
Fucking Class traitor. Coyote in sheep’s clothing.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/john-fetterman-black-jogger-2013-shotgun-20220425.html
In 2013, Fetterman pursued a man and pulled a shotgun on him because he wrongly believed the man, who turned out to be a Black jogger, had been involved in a shooting.
Miyares also told The Inquirer their encounter shouldn’t stop Fetterman from becoming a senator.
“Even with everything I said, it is inhumane to believe one mistake should define a man’s life,” Miyares wrote in one of two letters sent to The Inquirer. “I hope he gets to be a Senator.” (That last line was underlined three times.)
Miyares didn’t expect Fetterman to change his account.
“Telling the truth on an incident 10 years ago could cause him more harm than good,” Miyares wrote. “Mr. Fetterman and his family have done far more good than that one bad act or action and, as such, should not be defined by it.”
He signed that letter: “Gooo Fetterman.”
Took an interesting turn. And then another right away
Where is Miyares now?
Miyares wrote to The Inquirer in response to a letter seeking his side of the story. Miyares is serving an 18- to 36-month sentence after being convicted in 2019 of kidnapping, terroristic threats, unlawful restraint, and other crimes against a woman who hired him for a ride to work.
According to the criminal complaint, the victim told investigators Miyares pulled out a knife after asking her a series of personal questions, driving a route not in the direction of her job, and locking all the car doors. She forced her door open, escaped, and flagged down nearby drivers for help as Miyares drove off. He later sent her a text message saying he knew where she lived and worked.
Wtf
This is who he’s always been, but liberals were blinded by the D in front of his name and chose to ignore the shit he did before getting elected.
Yes he sucks now, but your lazy take is revisionist history.
His noggin seems to be fully healed after his stroke: he’s now a fully-functional politician once again, with perfectly working lying, backstabbing, flip-flopping and sycophantic brain functions.
Wish we all had access to this level of healthcare so we could all go back to performing our job to the fullest of our abilities like he does.
He just can’t stop being fuckwit. He’s just another Manchin and just needs to become a Republican and GTFO.
He ran around calling himself progressive and talking about all the progressive stuff the country needs…
But all it took was a stroke and a little brain damage for him to go full maga, now he honestly and repeatedly says he doesn’t understand why people ever thought he was progressive.
I think the brain damage made him forget that he was willfully lying about being progressive.
I wouldn’t be upset if he had another stroke at this point.
Its funny how brain injury tends to turn people right.
No it doesn’t. I had a TBI and went further left.
maybe it has to be combined with excess money.
Well I definitely don’t have that lol
Maybe it will fix whatever got broke the first time
This, ladies and gentlemen, is what grievance politics leads to. Cenk*, Anna, Fetterman, Dore, etc, when you think of criticism as competition to get to the top, or you think of one person’s success as a lack of your own, the only path is towards right wing grift.
Jenk, as in Cenk Uygur from The Young Turks turned to the right?
Sorry, Cenk, not Jenk. The point isn’t that all of these people have become right wingers only that once grievance politics begins, that’s where it ends if there is no reconciliation. Anna and Cenk both double down and treat other members of the left as competition rather than allies. This will drive them from the movement sooner or later.
When your calculus about why people are critiquing something you say is that they want to lower your status so that they can replace you, you’ve got a very different reaction, and one that will not involve actual engagement with the criticism. If you look at it from that point of view, their takes start to make more sense.
Oh I get you. I don’t really watch TYT before, but the last time I saw them they are quite militant. It put me off from further watching the show.
I know where you’re coming from overall. Not everyone of course, but a lot on the left are similarly militant. Frankly, a lot of their ideas, arguments and their messaging approach is very low bar. They consume information sources that are “fast food”, shall we say. Both the left and liberals are rightly criticised for being smug, which turns off people or even shies many away from the broader movement. The militant left and liberals are kind of in their bubble and I realised that after interacting with “vote blue no matter who” Democrats and after Trump won. They refuse to acknowledge the root cause of rise of Trumpism as being economic. Instead, they quickly malign Latino, Muslim, black and white working class folks who voted for Trump as dumb, racist, etc. They forget that white working class used to vote Democrats…
Who is this “militant left” and how are they acting anything like liberals? It’s the liberals who are vote blue no matter who, oh we lost an election let’s go even further right to court voters who will never vote for us while pissing off our base so we can once again lose an election.
Not all, but plenty on both left and liberals basically abandoned the working class by caricaturising them as redneck, racist and misogynist hillbillies, rather than acknowledging the economic grievances which the right exploited to their advantage. Even after the recent 2024 US presidential election, the left and liberals started to blame Latino and black voters for electing Trump. But ultimately, it is down to economic issues. Alexandra Ocasio Cortez herself mentioned that many Latino families are living in under one household with other families. Many liberals and leftists-- many of whom are middle class and tend to be quite affluent and sheltered-- started to say that Latinos elected Trump because of machismo. Liberals and leftist also said black voters are “dumb”. But really, it’s down to economic anxiety. Trump promised tax cuts amid the growing inflation. He promised tariffs on imports because the working class thinks this will encourage many companies to re-shore and boost buying American, even though it may not be the case. There are many other factors that compounds but it will take too long to list them all.
Of course sure, many Republican voters and are racists and dumb, but many were turned because they were manipulated. It is the same with the Germans during the Great Depression. Voting for a populist extremist is may be dumb, but people are desperate to cling to any lifeline. A lot of those on the left and liberal side have safety net (and they have a blindspot not to realise this), however, the working class had it pulled underneath from them when outsourcing happened en masse but no alternatives were put in place. Many areas left with no jobs are manipulated to hate on immigrants. Many left/liberals don’t realise this and start to look down on the working class. I mean, the working class used to vote left/liberal after all. The Rust belt loved Obama. There is a massive reason why they now vote Republican, and it is not always because of ignorance and bigotry that’s for sure.
Someone mentioned about immigration as well. It might controversial to say this, but some areas are genuinely overwhelmed by having too many people coming in but there is not enough infrastructure to accommodate the swell in population. It is not the people or the local’s fault if they blame immigrants, but the underinvestment and under-resourcing of communities brought by neoliberal policies. Many refugees and immigrants can’t afford the more expensive places, so they go to poorer areas where there limited jobs and hospital capacities. This creates an artificial division among people: pitting the working class and immigrants. But some of the liberals and left who are more affluent and living in better areas, unaware of their own privileges because of cognitive blindspots, do not see it that way and malign the poorer folks as inherently intolerant.
You keep using left and liberal like they’re interchangeable when they absolutely aren’t.
In 2016 the left went for Bernie sanders, who had an economic populist platform that spoke to the grievances that came from 2008. The democrats - liberals - kneecapped him and shunned his supporters.
It’s the liberals who took minorities for granted and are now turning on them now that they’re no longer useful. It’s the liberals who thought they could just run on demographics and identity politics alone and not bother with a real platform other than “we’re not trump”. I find it pretty offensive that you lump the mythical “left” in this country with liberals. There’s very few actual leftists and whole lot of liberals who think they’re left because they want to reform capitalism with social democracy instead of overthrow it like it deserves to be.
I’d be considered a somewhat anti immigration leftist, because I work in an industry that undercuts local labor and imports cheaper J1s and H1Bs. During covid, instead of a merit raise of 10-50 cents we got a three dollar + raise because they couldn’t import foreign labor for cheap. Tight immigration used to be a somewhat left wing stance, economic protectionism. Loose immigration just benefits business owners and fucks over labor. Obviously we’re a nation of immigrants and we need immigration but we also need to clamp down hard on businesses who take advantage of cheap labor to fuck over American labor like myself. I hate that the immigration conversation focuses on “illegals” and not on businesses fucking over American labor by hiring cheaper legal and illegal labor instead.
And I think race is overplayed of an issue when it comes to immigration. A large quantity of immigrants coming in are not English speakers, most are Spanish speakers. I’m from NY originally and I’ve been gone for almost a decade living in the whitest state ever and I had to go home to take care of my mom - I heard almost entirely Spanish being spoken many places instead of English. When I grew up it was English 90% of the time and now it’s Spanish probably 40-50% of the time. That’s culturally shocking and it’s fair for English speakers to be irritated by it and feel like they’re being replaced. I have a ton of respect for people who speak more than one language but due to a brain injury I’m not capable of it despite trying. It’s crazy to see how much my hometown changed in the decade I’ve been gone. It’s unrecognizable.
Also it shouldn’t be controversial to say certain places are getting completely overwhelmed by immigrants. Of course the liberals will paint you as a rAcIsT for saying so but look at how hard they lost this election to see how tired people are of their bullshit.
We have a racist history that bleeds into the present day no doubt but not everything is because of race.
Yes
What did he do?
I don’t watch TYT, so I can’t go into too many specifics. But from what I do know, Cenk and Ana have both been buying into the crime scare bullshit, and agree with Republicans on immigration. Ana has also been saying stuff that is anti-trans. Cenk and Ana are no longer at all leftists. Maybe funding dried up and they are trying to pander to a different audience?
He named his media organization after a bunch of genocidaires for one.
Still better than Oz would have been.
Sure but that’s like saying “at least it’s not pancreatic cancer” when you have a brain tumor.
at least it’s not pancreatic cancer
I almost wonder if things would have been better if Oz did get elected. Like when Massachusetts elected Scott Brown but then replaced him with Elizabeth Warren.
That’s a fair point!
At least now he seems to be being honest and telling us the kind of shitty person he really is
