There is enough confusion between horizontal resolutions (2K, 4K etc.) and vertical ones (1080p, 2160p etc.). This is not helping; why even print a promotional sticker with a number of pixels smaller than what it should be?

  • OhStopYellingAtMe
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    152 months ago

    Don’t the outward pointing arrows indicate it’s a widescreen format? That would be my interpretation.

  • @Oisteink@lemmy.world
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    142 months ago

    This confusion is likely local and exists inside your head only. 1080p has been known as full hd since the early days of dvd.

    2k and 4k does not refer to horizontal resolution but the number of pixels. 1080p is 2k

    • @ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.mlOP
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      I know the difference but there are lots of people who aren’t really savvy with video technology. I wouldn’t blame them for thinking that [🢐 1080 🢒] is just barely better than 1024x768.

      2k and 4k does not refer to horizontal resolution but the number of pixels

      Nope. 1920×1080 is 2 073 600 pixels, which would be 2M. “2K” is the horizontal resolution (1920) rounded up. A screen with literally 2K pixels would be around 50×40, lower than the crappiest handheld consoles.

      • @Oisteink@lemmy.world
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        Nah

        They won’t know about 1024x768, but if they did they would understand that 1080 is barely better.

        Going from 1024 to 1920 horizontal also takes the aspect ratio from 3:4 to 16:9. so pixel density is barely better.

        • @ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.mlOP
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          https://www.xkcd.com/1889/

          If 2K referred to the number of pixels, it would look like this: Bliss 50×40=2000 This post 62×33=2046

          FullHD is actually a little over 2M pixels.

          takes the aspect ratio from 3:4 to 16:9. so pixel density is barely better

          What? Screen aspect ratio and pixel density are quite different things. Most FullHD TVs are widescreen and have pixel density below 36 ppi, and while high-DPI 4:3 screens are rare, they are not impossible in any way.

    • @oktoberpaard@feddit.nl
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      But 2K and 4K do refer to the horizontal resolution. There’s more than one resolution that’s referred to as 2K, for example 2048 x 1080 DCI 2K, but also 1920 x 1080 full HD, since it’s also almost 2000 pixels wide. The total number of pixels is in the millions, not thousands.

      For 4K some common resolutions are 4096 x 2160 DCI 4K and 3840 x 2160 UHD, which both have a horizontal resolution of about 4000 pixels.

      • @Oisteink@lemmy.world
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        12 months ago

        Yeah - like stated in the wiki article i linked. im not sure how I interpreted OP when reading the post again today. I didn’t notice the arrows part, and thats in the title.

    • @B0rax@feddit.org
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      22 months ago

      I don’t think the point is the number. The point is that the arrows indicate the width, which is 1920 pixels. But the numbers indicate the height (1080 pixels)

      So the sticker is mildly infuriating by having the arrows not correspond to the number, which is the topic of this community.

  • @gigachad@sh.itjust.works
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    62 months ago

    I had an Acer of the same series with that sticker. When that notebook was produced, 2k or 4k was not a thing. We were in the era of transitioning from what we called “HD-Ready” or 720p to “FullHD” or 1080p. These numbers refer to the rows, so the horizontal resolution. At least for me that number is pretty clear I immediately know what it means. I bought that notebook in late 2018 I highly doubt this sticker exists anymore.

    The era I’m talking about is like 5-8 years ago btw

    • @myplacedk@lemmy.world
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      132 months ago

      These numbers refer to the rows, so the horizontal resolution.

      Yes, that is the number of rows. But that makes it the vertical resolution. There’s 1080 pixels from top to bottom. If the arrows/triangles are indicating the direction of measurement, they are wrong.

      I suspect that it’s an attempt at indicating a wide screen. 16:9, 16:10 etc was fairly new at the time, many buyers would be expecting their usual 4:3 screen ratio.

        • @Ditti@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          So 1920 rows x 1080 columns.

          Unless I have a massive brain fart right now, no, that’s the exact opposite. The screen is wider than it is tall (unless you rotate by 90°) - hence the term widescreen. There are 1920 columns (width) and 1080 rows (height). This is why the sticker is confusing: it indicates that 1080 pixels is the width.

        • @myplacedk@lemmy.world
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          So 1920 rows x 1080 columns.

          No, it’s definitely 1920 columns and 1080 rows.

          So yeah the sticker is right but OP is wrong.

          I don’t know what the sticker is trying to say. I can read it in two ways, and one of them is kind of correct while the other is definitely wrong. And that is unnecessarily confusing, and therefore mildly infuriating.

          I don’t know what you think OP is wrong about.

    • @ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.mlOP
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      -22 months ago

      The terms “2K” and “4K” were totally commonplace since about 2010, although not as prevalent as 1080p. I hate how the video industry switched to marketing horizontal resolution (and rounding it up) just to make the number look big.

      • DominusOfMegadeus
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        22 months ago

        In what way exactly? I am not following some of these comments. The thing that irks me is that the companies make these wide screens, and then hide the resolution to try and fool me into thinking it’s a 4K monitor. I actually really want a 4K monitor, and every time, it seems to be someone trying to fool me again. (I know they are available, but I am hoping they come down a bit in price)