• @kambusha@lemmy.world
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    378 months ago

    “What’s one plus four?!”

    “What’s five plus two?!”

    “What’s seven take away three?!”

    “Name a vegetable?!”

  • @hsdkfr734r@feddit.nl
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    318 months ago

    Essence:

    In cognitive science, we say the carrot is “prototypical” – for our idea of a vegetable, it occupies the centre of the web of associations which defines the concept.

    I don’t carrot all.

  • edric
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    258 months ago

    This is one time that I actually wish OP went the clickbait route and omitted the answer from the title. Now I can’t take the test myself and have to try it on someone else first.

  • Lvxferre
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    168 months ago

    I remember some prototype studies made with fruits, where they tested (I think?) Mexicans and Iranians, and the results were different - one side picking apples as prototypical fruits, another bananas. So prototypes are culture-dependent, it’s just that that one is widespread enough to mask the effect.

    And the superhero example made me notice that they vary individually, too. For example I don’t usually consume American hero media, but I do watch quite a bit of anime, so when the author mentioned superheroes my mind went like

    • “superhero” → Goku (arguable, but that’s what immediately came to my mind!)
    • “costume superhero” → Sailor Moon
    • “costume superhero with a cape” → Saitama
    • “costume superhero with a cape, can fly” → Superman

    The shift from Saitama to Superman was specially interesting because my mind actually backtracked into Goku, only to handle the conflicting info (not wearing costume, not wearing cape) afterwards. That fits rather well the metaphor used by the text, of prototypes as the centres of a web of associations, once you split the web into a bunch of overlapping “territories” - conflicting info forces you to migrate from one territory to another, and the reference to “flying” made me beeline for the prototype of “flying character” first, only then to check the overlap between “flying character” and “costume superhero with a cape”.

  • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)
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    138 months ago

    I was given this one once, but my response was cucumber.
    I like eating cucumbers.

    Now I want a cucumber again. Fresh, juicy cucumber.

  • @Dasnap@lemmy.world
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    48 months ago

    They’re a bright color, fairly unique shape; I’d imagine they’re a lot of people’s first choice.

    • @NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world
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      78 months ago

      Playing two classic schoolyard games can help us understand everything from sexism to the power of advertising.

      There’s a word game we used to play at my school, or a sort of trick, and it works like this. You tell someone they have to answer some questions as quickly as possible, and then you rush at them the following:

      “What’s one plus four?!”

      “What’s five plus two?!”

      “What’s seven take away three?!”

      “Name a vegetable?!”

      Nine times out of 10 people answer the last question with “Carrot”.

      Now I don’t think the magic is in the maths questions. Probably they just warm your respondent up to answering questions rapidly. What is happening is that, for most people, most of the time, in all sorts of circumstances, carrot is simply the first vegetable that comes to mind.

      This seemingly banal fact reveals something about how our minds organise information. There are dozens of vegetables, and depending on your love of fresh food you might recognise a good proportion. If you had to list them you’d probably forget a few you know, easily reaching a dozen and then slowing down. And when you’re pressured to name just one as quickly as possible, you forget even more and just reach for the most obvious vegetable you can think of – and often that’s a carrot. Alamy Carrots are the “prototypical” vegetable (Credit: Alamy)Alamy Carrots are the “prototypical” vegetable (Credit: Alamy)

      In cognitive science, we say the carrot is “prototypical” – for our idea of a vegetable, it occupies the centre of the web of associations which defines the concept. You can test prototypicality directly by timing how long it takes someone to answer whether the object in question belongs to a particular category. We take longer to answer “yes” if asked “is a penguin a bird?” than if asked “is a robin a bird?”, for instance. Even when we know penguins are birds, the idea of penguins takes longer to connect to the category “bird” than more typical species.

      So, something about our experience of school dinners, being told they’ll help us see in the dark, the 37 million tons of carrots the world consumes each year, and cartoon characters from Bugs Bunny to Olaf the Snowman, has helped carrots work their way into our minds as the prime example of a vegetable.

      The benefit to this system of mental organisation is that the ideas which are most likely to be associated are also the ones which spring to mind when you need them. If I ask you to imagine a costumed superhero, you know they have a cape, can probably fly and there’s definitely a star-shaped bubble when they punch someone. Prototypes organise our experience of the world, telling us what to expect, whether it is a superhero or a job interview. Life would be impossible without them. Alamy Answer quickly: what do cows drink? Your response shows just how our mind’s associations can sometimes lead us astray (Credit: Alamy)Alamy Answer quickly: what do cows drink? Your response shows just how our mind’s associations can sometimes lead us astray (Credit: Alamy)

      The drawback is that the things which connect together because of familiarity aren’t always the ones which should connect together because of logic. Another game we used to play proves this point. You ask someone to play along again and this time you ask them to say “Milk” 20 times as fast as they can. Then you challenge them to snap-respond to the question “What do cows drink?”. The fun is in seeing how many people answer “milk”. A surprising number do, allowing you to crow “Cows drink water, stupid!”. We drink milk, and the concept is closely connected to the idea of cows, so it is natural to accidentally pull out the answer “milk” when we’re fishing for the first thing that comes to mind in response to the ideas “drink” and “cow”.

      Having a mind which supplies ready answers based on association is better than a mind which never supplies ready answers, but it can also produce blunders that are much more damaging than claiming cows drink milk. Every time we assume the doctor is a man and the nurse is woman, we’re falling victim to the ready answers of our mental prototypes of those professions. Such prototypes, however mistaken, may also underlie our readiness to assume a man will be a better CEO, or a philosophy professor won’t be a woman. If you let them guide how the world should be, rather than what it might be, you get into trouble pretty quickly.

      Advertisers know the power of prototypes too, of course, which is why so much advertising appears to be style over substance. Their job isn’t to deliver a persuasive message, as such. They don’t want you to actively believe anything about their product being provably fun, tasty or healthy. Instead, they just want fun, taste or health to spring to mind when you think of their product (and the reverse). Worming their way into our mental associations is worth billions of dollars to the advertising industry, and it is based on a principle no more complicated than a childhood game which tries to trick you into saying “carrots”.

    • @ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca
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      18 months ago

      Loads for me on Firefox for Android with uBlock and some other extensions. Iut of curiosity, what are you browsing on?