• @aodhsishaj@lemmy.world
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    4010 months ago

    From the letter “…subject to a full accounting and subsequent receipt of good funds” doesn’t seem like in that language they’ve actually finished payment.

    • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      5010 months ago

      It means they sent in a bad check, and the company expects it to clear.

      It’s not going to, so as soon as the bad check is delivered, they scramble to get all this in writing and think it’s paid off.

      It’s literal check fraud and just abusing how there’s a delay in companies finding out it’s a bad check.

      • @4am@lemm.ee
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        1510 months ago

        I was wondering how the fuck they pulled this off. Sounds like an issue with Toyota not waiting for funds to clear before sending out titles.

        Is this why other sovcits post about writing checks from closed accounts? Is it really just “do check fraud” wrapped up in nonsensical legal mumbo-jumbo that they just follow thinking it makes them look smart?

        • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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          1310 months ago

          There’s very little checks on this.

          Last used car I bought the DMV asked me if I had a lien, and I said no because I didn’t know that was the same thing as a loan.

          So I got the title mailed to me and the bank and the dealer shit themselves.

          I wasn’t trying to pull a scam, it’s just that physical possession of a title doesn’t really mean anything. So no one really checks anything.

          But yeah, if you see them talking about “coupons” or closed accounts, they’re just using fraudulent checks under the misguided assumption that if no one stops them immediately it’s legal.

          Because it “works” in the moment they don’t care. It might take a year for a court case and repossession to go thru, and in the meantime they’re posting to social media about how it works and everyone should do it.

        • Tarquinn2049
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          710 months ago

          The penalty for passing bad cheques is more than enough to solve the problem in the long term. So the company doesn’t really need to worry. Having a title isn’t a legally binding thing in the real world, it’s just one of the SovCit spell components for this particular way to permanently ruin their life for someone else’s profit.

          They are sold these “spells” that if they follow all the instructions exactly, they are magically immune to the consequences of their choices. The spells never work, but it’s only because each individual practitioner must have messed up one of the steps. So the person that sold the spell “wasn’t wrong and everyone else should buy it too”.

          Kind of reminds me of those mobile game ads where they show someone being real bad at playing the game, to try to trigger the need to “show them how it’s really done”.

            • Tarquinn2049
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              210 months ago

              Not legally, it would just stack even more fraud on top and their eventual consequences will just be that much worse.

  • @CluelessLemmyng
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    1810 months ago

    What “methods” did they use to pay? I’m missing a little bit of context.

    • @BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.worldOPM
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      4210 months ago

      They usually try and submit the “coupon”, or another form of magical paperwork called a 1099A, which is an acquisition of property form for federal taxes, which sovcits think somehow pays for things by accessing the secret bank account worth 2 million dollars that the government sets up in your name when you are born. This is a sovcit belief.

      • @edgemaster72@lemmy.world
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        2510 months ago

        You know you’re off the reservation when one of the core beliefs of your system is that the government just “gives” everyone $2M for being born. Even if you add the part where you have to use the magic crazy talk to access that money, it would just make more sense for the government to keep that money for themselves rather than set up whatever nonsense they think this is.

        • @GBU_28@lemm.ee
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          1610 months ago

          Shouldn’t say off the rez any more.

          That phrase refers to the historical bad treatment native Americans would experience, if caught “off the reservation” by police. Often including beatings and killings

          • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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            310 months ago

            Kind of.

            In this context saying someone is “off the reservation” means that all Natives were stupid/crazy or uneducated. So if someone did something stupid, it meant they were acting like a Native from a reservation. Like how someone might say “hood”, “ghetto”, or more recently “huddy”.

            In some context “you’re off the reservation” was a veiled threat to Natives meaning they have no protection and will likely be assaulted if they kept acting “uppity”.

            Just not how it was just used in the comment you replied to.

          • @4am@lemm.ee
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            310 months ago

            I hate how every bit of American slang has some awful racist or misogynistic entomology. Makes me disrespect people who say “SPEAK AMERICAN” even more.

            (I mean, not that the English don’t have their fair share…)