And saw a bunch of posts about the third party apps closing down, and lots of negativity about that whole fiasco.
… And I realized I hadn’t been there for a week… And frankly didn’t miss it. I am really loving the beehaw (and Lemmy as a whole) community. Thanks for being open, welcoming, responsive, engaging, and just generally nice people. I’m happy to be here. :)
Haven’t stopped using reddit, tbh. But my usage has noticeably dropped - haven’t even commented on a single thing but one after installing Jerboa. Having an alternative really does help. I’m confident I can completely stop redditing on mobile by the end of the month as long as this community stays active.
Yeah, I’m unsure what to do. I’m lead mod for /r/SanAntonio a city I recently left, and I feel an urge to do something with it. Like use it to make a statement or something.
You guys with mod experience are really valuable, imo. Can’t help with what you want to do with your reddit sub, but it would be great to see your subs here!
Honestly, the complexity of federated services isn’t for mass adoption. And /r/SanAntonio users are some of the last I would expect to see adopt lemmy. And I feel I’d have to get comfortable with it myself before recommending others, as that comes with the obligation to help them out.
Like, why do thse two instances of this post have 1 common comment, and 1 missing? https://beehaw.org/post/473716 https://lemmy.pineapplemachine.com/post/5781
Also, what’s with this ‘search !meta@lemmy.pineapplemachine.com on your instance to find this post and be able to comment on it’ crap. I was linked to pineapplemachine from beehaw, maybe thats the other user’s fault… idk. it’s a real rough experience from the start.
When I was feeling overwhelmed by all the cumbersome clicks that come with getting used to lemmy, I found kbin to be a better way to just explore what’s across all instances.
It’s a different project but can access and interact with everything on lemmy.
It’s so cool to be able to use different front-ends to access the same content. I personally prefer Lemmy’s software, but it’s refreshing to have a choice in how we interact with a content platform.
I’ve ended up liking the lemmy interface more, but it was definitely way too overwhelming at first. Kbin helped me understand how content is spread out across instances in a much more obvious way.
That then let me know which communities I should sub to in order to make my lemmy account more what I wanted and expected.
Please give Lemmy some more time to develop. Until the Reddit API announcements this week, it only had 2 hobbyist developers contributing to it at a slow rate because of its small userbase.
Content can appear slightly different between instances because of how posts are retrieved with federation. In the threads you linked, it’s likely that the older comment doesn’t appear on beehaw.org because it was posted before beehaw.org federated with lemmy.pineapplemachine.com. Comments that were posted before two instances federate with each other are not synced between the instances. This prevents small instances federating with big ones like lemmy.ml from being bombarded by thousands of comment requests.
The problem with links to remote communities not converting to links on the home server and the confusing federation process are also being worked on, but again, Lemmy (and Kbin)'s contributors are a few unpaid developers. They can’t be expected to push production-quality Reddit features instantly.
I’m a few miles up 35 and finding the only real utility Reddit provides other than killing time is /r/Austin, and even there … well, I get NWS alerts on my phone, take transit and don’t lose pets, so the level of usefulness may be more imagined than real.
At the same time, the initial reasons I joined Reddit other than link aggregation aren’t what they once were. I’ve found that DIY projects I learn about on Reddit and then have questions about details on get zero responses, and the communities I joined years ago have been so overrun by people who want karma over discussion that there’s not much value there, either.
Using Google to search Reddit can be useful, but then you get a great detailed post from four years ago and can’t do anything with it if you have further questions. The thread is locked on account of age, and people get pissed if you post a new thread on the same topic that links to the original.
What this API fiasco has done is bring into specific relief where Reddit has already failed and turned all of those into a cohesive narrative that was lacking up to this point. I’d heard of Tildes but not Lemmy until this week, and already my work internet use has switched from RSS then Reddit to Beehaw then RSS.
I guess I needed to get hit over the head with just how bad things had gotten via external forces to overcome inertia. Interestingly, two months ago, I was running Windows on all my computers, and I finally snapped on how invasive notifications and forced-app shenangians had gotten.
The stages of grief may end with acceptance where people are involved, but they certainly don’t need to with technologies and platforms. I’m starting to better understand the grousing I wrote off as narcissistic woe-the-hell-is-me was actually a congregation of coal-mine canaries.
I’ve curated my subreddits pretty well, so I will miss some of them if they don’t move over here or someplace similar. But there’s enough going on that I think it will not be too bad.
That’s my biggest concern as well. I mean, I have no loyalty to reddit as a platform, but it does have vibrant communities for the numerous (and often niche) things that I am interested in. So divorcing myself from reddit almost entirely will be… difficult, but frankly, the platform has been going to shit for a while now and a kick in the butt to leave was sorely needed.
And based on your profile banner, looks like we share one of those communities: FFXIV :)
I am happy to see reddit go. I came in to reddit on the Dogg exodus, tried to leave reddit on one exodus that turned out to be all racist and right wing (voat maybe?) So then went back. If Lemmy doesn’t work I’m just going to have to go outside or something
I recommend going outside anyway. Exercise adds a big chunk of life expectancy and well-being.
The book “The Miracle Pill” is a good read on this topic if anyone’s interested
I wouldn’t be surprised if Reddit pulls an insta and starts hiding its content behind an account wall.
I tried looking at comments on a post about Apollo and it wouldn’t let me load more comments without logging in. Guess I just won’t see them since I no longer have an account.
What a shame, end if an era. I’m right there with ya
It’s already what they are trying to do on mobile (first with NSFW content, but they blocked the old mobile interface…)
They’re going to block NSFW for apps that use their new paid API too, last I heard. Which makes no sense but there you go. >.>
And yeah I suspect old reddit’s days are numbered on desktop too.
Yes, removing NSFW from API was part of the initial announcement.
Today during the AMA, somebody asked about it and the CEO’s reply was that because NSFW carries potential legal risk it was pulled from the API but would still be on reddit itself. Which is an answer that makes absolutely no sense.
Pretty clear the real intention was to make sure any apps that didn’t die from being priced out would be lacking the horny content that brings people to the site.
I’ll miss what Reddit was but not what it’s become. Good riddance to yet another enshittified social media site.
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R/all and the default subs have been trash for years, but it was still possible to have a decent experience on Reddit after curating your subscriptions to your own interests, and using 3rd party apps. I’m slowly moving my browsing over to here especially given the recent news, but it is difficult to give up the niche subreddits I enjoy that don’t yet have comparable communities here.
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I accidentally opened it for a minute today, but honestly I can’t say I miss it that much either.
I was just perusing the big AMA with the CEO or whatever the spez guy is. They are not holding up well lmao.
It really seems like they are tying to tackle two issues at once here (LLM training on reddit data, revenue from 3rd party apps) and they aren’t doing a great job at communicating why they are making the API changes. It doesn’t help that the company has a history of making empty promises, so nobody trusts a word they say.
It doesn’t help that they’re lying through their teeth trying to throw somebody under the bus who thought ahead and brought the receipts to the party 😂
Honestly, if there is one thing Huffman has demonstrated in that thread, it is that he need to be replaced as CEO. What an embarrassment.
Apparently he’s been busted in the past editing comments critical of him to reroute them at various mods instead. haha
yeah, he did that to users in /r/the_donald. Which, given his own beliefs, is likely because he was mad his own people were attacking him.
I still miss Yishan telling us to look deep into our souls before wacking off to Jennifer Lawrence
…what?
The Fappening friend
Popping my Lemmy cherry!
That ama is what convinced me that reddit is dead, and in like 3 minutes took me from being sad about it to enthusiastically watching it die.
Its funny watching reddit and Twitter implode with mastodon and lemmy we have 2 replacements that are better at being Twitter and reddit than Twitter and reddit 🤣
Welcome! I just came over yesterday because I submitted a report, WHICH WAS ACCEPTED AND ACTIONED BY REDDIT, then got a week ban for abusing the report feature.
I guess they don’t want us tying up resources as they work overtime to alienate the users that make Reddit worth a shit. 🤷
I just got banned from some of my subs for spamming their mod queue by accident… I edited all my visible comments to 4 archive.org links about the API changes. It triggered AutoModerator a zillion times.
I was going to let those comments sit for a bit before deleting my account.
That’s not really related to what you’re saying, but I guess I just wanted to share it with someone!
That sucks.
I had already nuked my 15 year heckload of karma “main” because I ran afoul of a super mod with some fairly innocuous opinion. Got banned from one sub, confused I modmail to ask what’s wrong and how I can fix it, get muted and immediately banned from upwards of 10 other subs. 🤣
Gave em a piece of my mind and killed it, because I’ll be damned if I let some butthurt waffle bully me like the internet is some sorta “real world.”
I wasn’t planning on going back to Reddit, so I don’t really mind.
I feel badly that I wasted mods’ time, actually. Part of the reason I edited my comments with a protest was to support mods.
I’m currently feeling both lol. I’m sad Reddit is making the decisions it’s making. Having communities that big help find niche info. However I’m glad everyone is giving them hell for how they’re treating devs and users.
I’d bet my left nut reddit will survive for quite a while yet, probably do even better over time
The kind of people who end up here just aren’t the target demographic for them anymore
FB and twitter are losing users, but very slowly. Reddit will go out the same way… It’ll be a whiny, decades-long, fading away into obscurity, while still retaining lots of assets.
I’m just hoping that most of my favorite niche subs move to something more decentralized; Reddit has a bunch of specialized communities that I’d hate to lose.
Maybe… but I’d guess in the same sense that Digg is still around. You’re right about the type of people migrating here, though - Reddit no longer cares about intelligent discussion, it’s all memes and snark and political outrage. They don’t want an informed populace, they want a populace that can be steered toward whatever they want.
This is not the first mass migration I’ve seen from Reddit, but this is the first one that feels like it might actually stick, for a couple of reasons: First, Lemmy finally feels like a viable alternative. Previous alternatives like Voat were quite abrasive - like I’m all about free speech, but I don’t want to see a bunch of hateful content just for the sake of being shocking. Second, this time they’re fucking with the mods. And while a lot can be said about the quality of the moderation over there, people abhorr being asked to do more with less, especially when they’re working for free. Lose the mods and the site is DONE. It will be overrun with spam so quick it’ll make your head spin, and then the last exodus will occur, quietly. And Reddit cannot afford to replace the unpaid mods with paid mods, they simply don’t have the resources.
It will be interesting to see how things go with Lemmy, but I have hopes - with it being decentralized, if a community becomes toxic or overly-censored it seems easy enough to spin up a rival on a different instance and filter the bad actor. At least that seems to be the pitch, let’s see how things shake out over the next year or two.
I’ve been on Reddit for nearly 15 years (since just prior to the digg migration), but it is nothing like what it used to be - it’s changed, man, and not at all for the better. Lemmy definitely feels more like Reddit of old, and I’m excited to be here - now I just need to find my hobby communities and I’ll have my new internet home. But the communities will come, the apps will come, and I have high hopes. Let’s go!
I’d add a third reason that killing the apps materially affects all the people who were die hard app users. Previous proposed reddit boycotts were over some issue like the site firing the woman who organized the AMAs or some other moderation issue that for the most part didn’t impact the rest of the experience of browsing. It’s easy to forget how one subreddit got ruined or some admin drama because it feels distant from day to day browsing. Taking away the apps is impossible to avoid. App users can’t just shrug about all this drama and go back to browsing the way they are accustomed to. Opening that official app is going to be a constant reminder of how ugly all this was. It will make sticking to a boycott much easier I think.
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Hear hear! I’ve been on Reddit over 15 years but fuck it, it’s not worth the neverending fountain of bullshit.
Same here. I was going to stick around till the end of the month, but that AMA convinced to delete my account today and move on to better things. I made sure to leave a tip in the jar for Christian on my way out.
I paid for RIF is Fun Platinum Golden, just as a thank you to TalkLittle for his awesome work. I feel bad I never did it before, but I really appreciate them
There was a news story that just broke, and I’ll admit I briefly hopped over to an r/ sub to eat popcorn and watch the reactions unfold. Guilty pleasures are hard to break sometimes. Lol.
That aside, yeah, I agree. Have been spending way less time over there where it’s like trying to have a discussion in a crowded cafeteria / auction house. Everything here is just more chill.
I think I’m going to still use reddit to solve certain problems when googling. It’s still a good resource for solving specific problems. Just won’t spend any browsing time there. Just in an out.
Definitely relate to this! If I google something and one of the top results is a Reddit post, I’m usually pretty excited because it means other people having similar issues will be able to offer advice on my particular use case. And there’s so much content already on Reddit that you’re very likely to find something helpful!
Yeah, it’s so useful because you get suggestions from real users along with discussion and a voting system. You’re not just relying on an algorithm to point to a poorly written list with the right keywords stuffed in. Oh, you’re looking for the best xyz? Here’s a list of Amazon affiliate links chosen by an “expert.” No thanks.
Same here, for porn only.
Same here, Google has slowly become unusable for certain topics if you don’t append “reddit” to your search.
It’s way too hard to cut through the search engine optimized spam when googling something now. Especially for product recommendations all you get are random top X lists.
Yes! and when you actually click on them you realize the term you searched was only used by those pages as seo and aren’t actually mentioned anywhere in there.
I’ve noticed I’ll type in the exact name of the website but forget the .com to tell my browser to go directly there, so it will do a search. My results show the site I was looking for halfway down the page, with the first half being ads and even competitors of the site! I’m not searching for items from the site but the site itself yet Google is so useless it shows me a bunch of similar stuff even when I gave it a specific.
I started using DuckDuckGo actively in 2014. It has since been my primary search engine. It used to be very similar to google: minimalist, an ad placed as the first search result and that’s it. DDG has stayed pretty much the same. The few times I now wander on google to try to get different results, I just find it so unusable. Search results are swimming in an ocean of suggested content… I’m never going back.
Brave Search is getting better as well. The browser is already pretty solid, I’m using it now.
I use brave on my phone. It autoblocks youtube ads, which is nice.
I do the same. It feels exactly the same, if not slightly better than, google search, now that search is so drowned in SEO spam anyways.
This link posted there seems concerning. Any individual instance can issue a federal ban? https://lemmy.pineapplemachine.com/post/5781
I believe it’s ban logs that are federated, not the bans themselves, but I don’t have any proof. Could someone running a personal instance test this by banning a remote user and see if they can still interact with other remote instances?
Note that if a user is banned by their home instance, it’s expected that they can’t interact with any remote instance either, as all of their posts will pass through their home instance first.
If Beehaw bans from the site someone that is on a remote instance, that account can no longer interact with any Beehaw communities. If Beehaw bans from the community someone that is on a remote instance, that account can no longer interact in that community.
That makes sense, but I think what Smoke assumes from the federated mod logs is that if Beehaw bans me (a remote user) from beehaw.org and the ban message federates over to my home instance feddit.dk and lemmy.ml, I will be banned from feddit.dk and lemmy.ml as well. While it’s unlikely that bans can federate between instances, I don’t have any proof of this.
Ban logs do federate but the effects aren’t in the way you describe. Otherwise, someone could just ban everyone over night by making their own little server, that’d be uh, quite chaotic to say the least? Thankfully, this is not how bans work through federation.
I can just envision the havoc that would ensue if someone could ban you from the instance you’re the admin of.
It’s probably up to the community admins to ignore or take external bans into consideration; like different countries and Interpol
If you have low resources you could copy ban lists to keep spam out (though that could be used to attack random users , though big communities’ ban lists may have more reputation - like beehaw is a big established community ~ ?
I still don’t understand how everything works here but I love the positivity I see !
I opened Apollo yesterday and got the notification it was going to be shutting down on the 30th. It was such a bummer—I really don’t plan on going back to Reddit now. Treat it like Quora, at best.
For a week? I have a reddit account for I don’t know how many years. And I visit reddit only if a search engine points me to it, to answer a question.
I just deleted my account which was over 10 years old. I don’t need that kind of negativity. Only positivity from here on out. Keep being awesome Lemmy.
I probably won’t delete my reddit account until the subreddits that I’m relatively active in gain a bigger presence on Lemmy, but if that happens, bye bye reddit.
11 year old account here, I’m getting ready to pull the trigger. So much time spent on niche subs that will be hard to replace, but I suppose that means I should be more active in any similar counterparts on Lemmy to help them grow and flourish.
16-year-old account for me. I probably won’t delete it, because it doesn’t do me any good to do that, but I’m not really showing up anymore. Especially after I have to delete Apollo.
What’s keeping you from creating those niche communities here? As long as it’s still a manageably small community here, moderating it wouldn’t be much of a hassle.
Go for it!
I don’t have that fortitude yet, haha. My account is from 2007. Have my little Colbert Rally badge on it from a goofier, tighter-knit time on Reddit. Feels more like a monument than a home now, though.
You can request all of your Reddit data somewhere in the settings if that would help``
I’m currently looking for this, and I don’t think Reddit has a feature that’s what this sounds like. On Facebook you can download all your data, photos, posts, comments, in one big pile. Closest thing I can find on Reddit (which only came up when I googled it externally) is a form you can submit to request what data Reddit has “about” your account. And they request 30 days processing time.
You can use the 3rd party scripts that are usually for mass editing/deleting to save all your comments/posts, I think, and without editing/deleting if you don’t want to. Like Power Delete Suite and Redact. But that doesn’t save other peoples’ replies, or the post you made a comment on, so far as I know.
They don’t work for frequent posters. I could only save my top 600? comments, 1000 most recent comments, and 600? most controversial comments, which is only maybe 10% of what I’ve written.
Realistically, that’s plenty, though. I don’t need a museum of everything I’ve written on the site, but I can open it up if I’m ever nostalgic for it.
Thats true, mean if somethings just constantly giving you grief rather than any enjoyment then how much good is it really to be using it? Lifes already enough of a pain lol
Just speed ran an account to 125k karma in 3 months because I like numbers, but the site is dross now, any individual thoughts are downvoted. It’s just one big circlejerk
lol. You talk about how you game the system to speedrun big numbers for imaginery points. Then complain that reddit isn’t what it was and theres no individual thoughts. … Do you not see the irony of that comment?
Not only do I see it, I feel it.
