I’d much rather see sites like Lemmy, PeerTube, and Mastodon see widespread adoption then the dystopian cyberpunk fever dream in the head of Zuckerburg. Did you not read the novel dude? It’s a freaking warning! That’s like Jeff Bezos reading Fahrenheit 451 and going “holy crap dude, gotta make that a reality like, yesterday!” I want the Fediverse, not the Metaverse! Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.
“Metaverse” is mostly dead, anyway. It’s basically turned into VR Bitcoin, and a worse version of the already existing VR.
A.I. seems to be the new shiny thing investors are moving into, and I’d be surprised if Facebook didn’t just silently remove references to the metaverse eventually.
Fediverse, for the slightly cringey “verse” name, does seem to at least be trying something new. Federating multiple completely different sites like Mastodon, Kbin, or Lemmy isn’t really something that was done before (that I can remember, feel free to correct if I’m wrong). You had some integrations with things like RSS and APIs before, but you couldn’t just go on Twitter and post/reply/read a Reddit thread from within twitter, or you’d have to do it with a complicated network of bots.
In my opinion, Fediverse is just a very fancy email service. My Fediverse ID is xavier666@lemm.ee 😁
It’s a good analogy - in the days before email, all you had was a username @ your BBS (Bulletin Board Server). You dialed into your local BBS’s landlines with a modem - they usually had 2-4 numbers available, so that gives you an idea of scale. The BBS systems were federated so user@bbs1 could see and respond to the same threads as user@bbs2. It was nice - it worked pretty much like the fediverse actually - and the tone was similar.
The messaging systems on the BBS communities evolved into email and Usenet before big money came along and fucked everything up.
Well the fediverse works. The fediverse is what internet was meant to be, before corporations sized it and made it the nightmare that centralised social media is. The “metaverse” is just Zuckerberg’s desperation to maintain his decadent model of social media afloat.
Yes, the Fediverse is actually awesome. It’s decentralized, there’s so many open-source implementations, etc etc. The Fediverse is what Zuckerberg wishes the Metaverse could be.
I respectfully disagree.
Zuck wants the metaverse to be what they show in the Ready Player One movie, which is not even close to what the fediverse is trying to be in any way.
He wants everyone to live in a virtual world that he alone controls.
I agree (also respectfully), just wanted to add, as I have seen the movie yesterday (and know the book), that the Oasis in Ready Player One is a not really a bad place. So the original OASIS is not what Meta want to have.
IOI (and Meta) want to transform an OASIS into their dystopian metaverse, like shown in the movie when IOI proudly presented their plans: a company’s dream of monetarizing every breath you take while exploiting everyone except their shareholders.
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The metaverse is silicon valley’s attempt to force mass adoption from the top down but tech has never worked like that. Mass adoption comes from the bottom up and selling a worthwhile product that makes peoples lives better. their only product is an aesthetic with a very limited niche at best.
Slightly unrelated but I feel like there has been such a proliferation of -verses from the Metaverse to the MCU that I’ve developed a negative association with all -verses as a marketing ploy despite my love for the Fediverse specifically. While probably not a realistic replacement, I think it’s fun when people sometimes use “the Federation” as it makes us sound like a network of allied planets engaged in intergalactic combat in a pulpy sci-fi series.
I agree, let’s go full Star Trek and call it the “Federation of United Communities of Earth.”
Agreed! If we all just start calling it “the Federation”, maybe it’ll stick. Also, i hate that “Fediverse” makes me think of Kevin Federline.
I like that! I’ve called it the Federated sites before instead of the Fediverse.
“Fediverse, not Metaverse” sounds like it would be great on a T-shirt.
Would buy
You’re preaching to the choir.
For starters the fediverse is real and it works, the metaverse is peering into Zuckerbergs asshole
The yawning chasm into the abyss
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Fediverse and the internet in general is already the metaverse. All we need to make it look like in sci-fi is for majority of users to interact with it in a 3D virtual space instead of 2D. XR technologies will get us there eventually but content on those platforms is lacking at best and is very far from general adoption.
The next big hurdle is large corporations trying to “create” the metaverse, which already exists, and control it. Which basically disqualifies anything they are doing from ever being the metaverse. I actually felt some degree of rage when facebook renamed themselves to meta, they single-handedly ruined public perception of the concept, anyone talking about it now in the general public is not taken seriously.
What’s also missing of the metaverse right now is owning your identity and taking it with you everywhere you go, fediverse comes close to that concept but is far from perfect since it’s pretty hard to interact with other fediverse technologies right now, if I’m on lemmy I don’t see any way to consume/interact with mastodon content or kbin content. However being able to traverse every instance of lemmy out there using one account, hosted on a server run by myself or someone else is a start.
I love and hate the idea of having a single ID on the internet, it’s interesting to think about.
I mean you’d be able to make as many as you want just that it would be compatible everywhere.
Hey I just realized that there is a Fediverse community, if this is considered off topic I apologize I’d be happy to delete this. My bad.
They aren’t really mutually exclusive
Zuckerberg is sick and we should not pay attention to him.
Hey I remember that guy! Legless Mark from myspace.
There is an open source metaverse-like project called Third Room that is built on Matrix. I have not tested it too much, but still an interesting project
… and includes legs!
They said it couldn’t be done!
Meta is doing their best to make this vision come true, lol
