Rotating banners on /r/piracy

db0 · edit-2 3 months ago

Rotating banners on /r/piracy

@hatedbad · 3 months ago

AI is a tool that is fundamentally based on the concept of theft and plagiarism. The LLM training data comes from artists and creators that did not consent to their work being plagiarized by a hallucinating machine.

@Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 months ago

Man, I love a person on u/piracy arguing we can’t do something because it’s theft and plagiarism.

Keelhauling is too good for them.

@hatedbad · 3 months ago

yeah silly me for supporting artists with my money but also downloading drm-free copies of things so I can actually exercise a semblance of ownership. but sure, keelhaul me so you can keep your sense of smug superiority.

@hazeebabee@slrpnk.net · edit-2 3 months ago

I see where youre comming from & also think its important to support artists I like, and I do. I think both AI and artists can coexist & serve different purposes.

Something like this, using AI for a banner, is using a tool for people to create something they couldnt/wouldnt before. It doesnt mean I’m not going to buy a cool print or painting from an artist I like.

& I think its cool to have something that aggregates information and makes it accesible and easy to work with for the masses. Its messed up that it is currently controlled by corporate interests, but there are also people working on FOSS ai. Its this kind of snapshot of humanity in its current state, that I think goes beyond any particular artist/writer/person.

I get being worried about it taking jobs, but I think new ones will spring up to take their place.

(Or really optimistically maybe well see some sort of radical change that will make the concept of ‘earning a living’ obsolete, like UBI or something)

Edited to add: as a writer, people who buy my writing wouldnt just use ai to replace me. If anything it can supplement my work by making it easier for fans to make fanart & help build hype around the universe and characters that I created.

@far_university1990@feddit.de · 3 months ago

In germany we have „bürgergeld“: state pay you living minimum (include food and rent) when you do not have job or cannot find one (it more complicated, this simplified). Also we have minimum wage roughly above living minimum.

Not exactly UBI, but i think close enough.

@hazeebabee@slrpnk.net · 3 months ago

Yeah! Thats definetly a step in the right direction. Programs like that will help ease the transition towards a new system as technology continues advancing.

Now we just need more countries/people to jump on board lol

Gadg8eer · 3 months ago

Fact is, art is SO hard that I am in my 30s, broke and have no employable skills other than research, social skills (barely, blame Autism for ruining it for me) and creative ability.

I earned, like, $15 to $20 CAD from publishing a book of short stories on Amazon over 2 years. Before you ask why, I am not excluding quality as a possibility but for the most part it’s because nobody is into optimistic post-singularity sci-fi anymore and I refuse to rely on anything but word of mouth for advertisement because screw the advertocracy.

My point is, if people pirate Cody Gibling’s works, I’d rather they do so because I only want enough money to be comfortable and anything else I get would be aimed at more serious pursuits like activism. You know what I pirate? Anything that they make too hard to access in the first place. Like dead MMOs or completed movies that were cancelled to get the studio a free tax break.

T (they/she) · edit-2 3 months ago

I wouldn’t expect most of people here to be reasonable. Some people just piracy for the sake of doing it and just take advantage of the ownership argument.

@Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 months ago

But you’re not allowed to. You’re STEALING, and you should ask, “Am I the baddie?”

@communism@lemmy.ml · 3 months ago

You are in a piracy community

Gadg8eer · 3 months ago

So is art itself. I might not name things the same as my inspirations or create anything identical, but I haven’t written a single thing that wasn’t based on something else.

I don’t want the AI being trained on my work either, but that’s because I oppose “automated mass slavery”

“Oh, you don’t want to be a slave in return for only the most basic of food and shelter? Sure, see if there are any jobs out there anymore, now that robots can do all of it for rich arrogant god complex sufferers like me. Lets lay the new ground rules… You’re DISPOSABLE to me. Beg and worship or die.” - A designated slaveowner’s thought process, 2084.

Stop thinking like a capitalist and start thinking like you’re an angry drunk if you really believe LLM should be outlawed. Envy is not a flattering look on anyone, you included. At least protests and riots get shit done, even if that means sacrificing a lifestyle you’re clearly only enjoying thanks to being self-centered in your artistic pursuits.