Buddy, if you think 1926 is post WW2 then you really need to get off the internet and read a book. And sure, let’s address Holodomor using actual research done by a historian. During the 1932 holodomor famine, the USSR sent aid to affected regions in an attempt to alleviate the famine. According to Mark Tauger in his article, The 1932 Harvest and the Famine of 1933:
While the leadership did not stop exports, they did try to alleviate the famine. A 25 February 1933 Central Committee decree allotted seed loans of 320,000 tons to Ukraine and 240,000 tons to the northern Caucasus. Seed loans were also made to the Lower Volga and may have been made to other regions as well. Kul’chyts’kyy cites Ukrainian party archives showing that total aid to Ukraine by April 1933 actually exceeded 560,000 tons, including more than 80,000 tons of food
Some bring up massive grain exports during the famine to show that the Soviet Union exported food while Ukraine starved. This is fallacious for a number of reasons, but most importantly of all the amount of aid that was sent to Ukraine alone actually exceeded the amount that was exported at the time.
Aid to Ukraine alone was 60 percent greater than the amount exported during the same period. Total aid to famine regions was more than double exports for the first half of 1933.
According to Tauger, the reason why more aid was not provided was because of the low harvest
It appears to have been another consequence of the low 1932 harvest that more aid was not provided: After the low 1931, 1934, and 1936 harvests procured grain was transferred back to peasants at the expense of exports.
Tauger is not a communist, and ultimately this specific article takes the view that the low harvest was caused by collectivization (he factors in the natural causes of the famine in later articles, based on how he completely neglects to mention weather in this article at all its clear that his position shifted over the years). However, its interesting to see that the Soviets really did try to alleviate the famine as best as they could.
but most importantly of all the amount of aid that was sent to Ukraine alone actually exceeded the amount that was exported at the time.
it doesn’t matter how much aid was sent. firstly, they could’ve sent more instead of exporting it and secondly, it still doesn’t change the fact that there was a devestating famine taking place in the USSR
also I see you continued to avoid talking about the genocides/massacres
I literally addressed you bullshit about a genocide in my reply by providing you with an actual study! Yet here you are bleating about it like a broken record when having been proven to be wrong. At least have the humility to admit it when you’re wrong. FFS this is embarrassing.
And I could address all that too, but what would be the point. You clearly don’t care about facts because you’re just a troll with an agenda. Keep on believing whatever nonsense you want. I’ve provided enough facts for people reading this thread to make up their own minds. I’m not dumb enough to think that I’m going to change yours.
you’re talking mostly about post WW2. what do you say about the holodomor?
also you conveniently didn’t talk about genocide
Buddy, if you think 1926 is post WW2 then you really need to get off the internet and read a book. And sure, let’s address Holodomor using actual research done by a historian. During the 1932 holodomor famine, the USSR sent aid to affected regions in an attempt to alleviate the famine. According to Mark Tauger in his article, The 1932 Harvest and the Famine of 1933:
Some bring up massive grain exports during the famine to show that the Soviet Union exported food while Ukraine starved. This is fallacious for a number of reasons, but most importantly of all the amount of aid that was sent to Ukraine alone actually exceeded the amount that was exported at the time.
According to Tauger, the reason why more aid was not provided was because of the low harvest
Tauger is not a communist, and ultimately this specific article takes the view that the low harvest was caused by collectivization (he factors in the natural causes of the famine in later articles, based on how he completely neglects to mention weather in this article at all its clear that his position shifted over the years). However, its interesting to see that the Soviets really did try to alleviate the famine as best as they could.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2500600
On top of that, the famine was also in part caused by the fact that kulaks slaughtered livestock rather then let it become collectivized https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulak#Dekulakization
Again, go educate yourself instead of trolling. You’re just embarrassing yourself here.
I don’t. that’s why I wrote “mostly”
it doesn’t matter how much aid was sent. firstly, they could’ve sent more instead of exporting it and secondly, it still doesn’t change the fact that there was a devestating famine taking place in the USSR
also I see you continued to avoid talking about the genocides/massacres
I literally addressed you bullshit about a genocide in my reply by providing you with an actual study! Yet here you are bleating about it like a broken record when having been proven to be wrong. At least have the humility to admit it when you’re wrong. FFS this is embarrassing.
you mean the holodomor? you know there happened more gonocides and massacres in the USSR than that, right?
And I could address all that too, but what would be the point. You clearly don’t care about facts because you’re just a troll with an agenda. Keep on believing whatever nonsense you want. I’ve provided enough facts for people reading this thread to make up their own minds. I’m not dumb enough to think that I’m going to change yours.