Was just talking at dinner with family, and it seems a logical action to ban circumcision, as in most cases, doesn’t have consent, and is a major (genitals are important) body modification. Can we ban it at the state level? Just a thought.

  • Dr. Moose
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    5 months ago

    Genital mutilation is incredibly sad and people are somehow tricking themselves into being ok with it because they can’t get they dick tips back lol

    Remember that cult where dudes were required to cut their balls off? It’s the same cult.

    • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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      Genital mutilation is awful but the really hard part is getting buy in to the idea that it’s actually genital mutilation. People don’t want to be identified as mutilated - men who have been circumcised don’t want the thing that happened without their consent to define them.

      • Dr. Moose
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        105 months ago

        Exactly. The mainstream male culture is too toxic to admit that yeah some are mutilated and even if it’s not a big deal on average these people did have their rights taken away from them and their identity invaded without consent.

        Maybe there would be more success with a softer word instead of mutilated but then there’s a risk of people pushing this away as “not a big deal”.

        • @Spacehooks@reddthat.com
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          Seriously not even that hard of an area to rinse. I actually wonder how much sensitivity men lose because it it. Articles keep saying it doesn’t reduce sexual satisfaction but I cant walk around with my foreskin pulled back all day. It would dry out and hurt like crazy as soon as I put on clothes. There has to be some loss to men that were mutilated and no one wants to admit they are missing out.

    • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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      tricking themselves into being ok with it because they can’t get they dick tips back lol

      I’m not tricking myself. I am literally indifferent to the fact that it happened. If people want to argue that it’s unnecessarily traumatic to children that is a good argument and makes sense. If you want to argue that I am mutilated, traumatized, and tricking myself then you’re full of shit.

      • Dr. Moose
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        5 months ago

        Proving my point here tbh

        Unconsensual body modification is mutilation. Wouldn’t you be offended if your parents performed any other permanent irreversible body modification? Clip your toes or ears?

        No one is trying to shame you or say that cut dicks are bad but it’s extremely unethical to do that to babies. Just think about how messed up that is.

            • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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              35 months ago

              You don’t have to be a medical expert to have an opinion on the topic of cutting bits off people.

              You probably should be a medical expert if you’re going to insist that:

              people are somehow tricking themselves into being ok with it

                • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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                  35 months ago

                  I have not.

                  Op said:

                  people are somehow tricking themselves into being ok with it

                  Op was asked if they were a medical expert. You jumped in saying OP doesn’t have to be a medical expert to have an opinion. I jumped in saying OP should be a medical expert in order to insist on a medical opinion.

        • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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          35 months ago

          Wouldn’t you be offended if your parents performed any other permanent irreversible body modification? Clip your toes or ears?

          I couldn’t possibly tell you because that’s not a thing that happens. “Oh, you’re not bothered by this thing that happened to you? What if it was a different thing?” Is not a compelling argument.

          To be clear, I am in no way arguing for circumcision. What I am saying is don’t say you’re fighting on my behalf over something I’m not bothered by. Some armchair “expert” insisting I am covering up trauma I don’t have is just going to cause me to think the entire movement is a bunch of performative assholes who don’t care to actually listen to people who were directly impacted by the thing they are talking about. That is the definition of virtue signaling: You don’t actually care about what the people it actually happened to have to say, you need to make sure everyone sees that “you know better” and you’re doing this for them.

          it’s extremely unethical to do that to babies

          Now that, is a good argument. Stick with that. Babies are unable to speak for themselves and need people to advocate for them. I don’t need someone else to speak for me, I am fully capable of doing that myself.

    • Dr. Wesker
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      5 months ago

      I’m always on the look out for uncut cocks to help abate the resentment of having my own mutilated.

      EDIT: Everyone flooding my inbox misunderstands me. I collect them, and then graft them onto a genetically modified host. It’s a part of Project Penesis.