• @GiddyGap@lemm.eeOP
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    95 months ago

    Problem is that lots of seemingly regular Americans believe in some conspiracy theories to a greater or lesser extent. Having spent significant time living on both the US and Europe, I’m pretty shocked how many Americans always seem to think that someone is “out to get them.” If it’s not some random person, it’s a criminal, it’s the government, it’s the school board, it’s the gays. Anyone, really. It’s tiresome.

    • @xor@infosec.pub
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      65 months ago

      well, the vietnam war was started from a conspiracy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
      and the iraq war:
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
      there was a plan to stage a false flag attack by cuba, and start a war: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
      (JFK said no… but his assassin was a lone wolf)
      the Tuskegee experiment killed about 100 people, denying them access to syphilis treatment: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study
      see also unethical human experimentation
      the NSA was illegally spying on all Americans and the entire world illegally… probably still are…
      the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act of 2006, made it legally “terrorism” to basically do any kind of animal rights activism…

      ill give you that “a secret cabal of satanic pedophile cannibal ultra-wealthy people” is a pretty sill idea…
      but yeah, im sure there’s never been any other conspiracies.

      here’s a programmer, who worked for a voting machine company, testifying about when he was asked to write a program to rig elections: https://youtu.be/5y48iHK3RP4?si=tGIVNV4WXgmaaFgh
      (i know trump lost fair and square… but there’s a lot of other elections)

      when covid first started spreading, there was a conspiracy in China to cover it up… i first learned about it from a conspiracy forum because a doctor leaked that info (he later died from covid)

      there are a shit load of conspiracies all the time… it’s basic human nature, really…
      but you can’t figure it out from clues in taylor swift’s dance routine or whatever the fuck the q-tips are going in about…

      if anything, Qanon was a real conspiracy, but just to control conspiracy theorists while making them look dumb.
      also, the term “conspiracy theorist” was invented by the CIA to, once again, make them look dumb… but it doesn’t even make sense, (almost) nobody has a job making up conspiracies… and it’s not a theory without evidence, it’s a hypothesis at best (and even then it’s probably a very very uneducated guess)
      🇺🇸🏈💸☕️
      tl;dr there’s a lot of real conspiracies…
      p.s. the ultra-rich conspiracies are actually just about stealing and hiding more money: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers
      oh, groups like Scientology actually do gang stalking… although it’s usually just schizophrenic people thinking it’s happening, sometimes people are out to get you…

      relevant Dead Kennedy’s song: https://youtu.be/kpoRMKXVkmE?si=vsUGbi9VkfghZd6U

      • Semi-Hemi-Demigod
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        55 months ago

        Another one nobody really talks about is the whole “UFO coverup conspiracy” which isn’t a conspiracy to cover up UFOs, but to hide military operations:

        The classic case, well-known to conspiracy aficionados, is Paul Bennewitz, a successful electronics entrepreneur in New Mexico. In 1979, Bennewitz started seeing strange lights in the sky, and picking up weird transmissions on his amateur equipment. The fact that he lived just across the road from Kirtland air force base should have set alarm bells ringing, but Bennewitz was convinced these phenomena were of extraterrestrial origin. Being a good patriot, he contacted the Air Force, who realised that, far from eavesdropping on ET, Bennewitz was inadvertently eavesdropping on them.
        Instead of making him stop, though, Doty and other officers told Bennewitz they were interested in his findings. That encouraged Bennewitz to dig deeper. Within a few years, he was interpreting alien languages, spotting crashed alien craft in the hills from his plane (he was an amateur pilot), and sounding the alert for a full-scale invasion. All the time, the investigators were surveilling him surveilling them. They gave Bennewitz computer software that “interpreted” the signals, and even dumped fake props for him to discover. The mania took over Bennewitz’s life. In 1988, his family checked him into a psychiatric facility.

        Paul Bennewitz died in that facility, still paranoid. Our government broke that man, a veteran, with a conspiracy.

        It makes it hard for me to enjoy the X Files knowing all the suffering caused by its origin.

        • @skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de
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          35 months ago

          in defense of air force, this was pretty funny

          (and also rather simple and self-sustaining way of diverting attention away from then top-secret projects that resulted in wonders of engineering like B-2 or F-117)

        • @xor@infosec.pub
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          15 months ago

          damn, they gas lighted him…

          im still with David Grusch and believe there’s been real ufo encounters…
          but it doesn’t surprise me they’d use the public interest in that another way…