Electric school buses are a breath of fresh air for children | Nearly $1B in federal funding could help clean up the unequal health impacts of diesel pollution.::Nearly $1B in federal funding will help decarbonize transportation and clean up some of the unequal health impacts of diesel pollution

  • @FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    110 months ago

    It’s 2 decades old so I hope the US has gotten better busses in the meantime because modern busses don’t have this issue:

    “The study showed that a child riding inside a diesel school bus may be exposed to as much as 4 times the level of diesel exhaust as someone riding in a car ahead of it.”

    The level of harm in that study was around 30 potential extra cases of cancer per million kids, that is fairly low considering the harm added by just general exhaust fumes for those living near busy roads. Even the study itself shows that living near a road frequented by trucks is more harmful.

    So my suggestion of just get public transit would be better remains mostly resolute, I would just add that use trains for cargo and not trucks.

    • Flying Squid
      link
      fedilink
      English
      210 months ago

      Ok… how is a kid living on a farm 10 miles from the main road and 20 miles from city limits going to get on public transit?

      • @FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        110 months ago

        Stick a bus stop somewhere in walking distance and run that route based on need. Like my parents live on a farm about 6km out of town and there’s a bus stop right near the house that bus goes twice per day and adults can ride it too.

        • Flying Squid
          link
          fedilink
          English
          110 months ago

          Where in walking distance? We have miles of unpaved road here with few homes on them and acres of farmland. I don’t think you understand just how large the U.S. is.

          • @FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            110 months ago

            If you live like 4 hours from the nearest settlement then you’re fucked either way, school bus or not but those people are in the vast minority everywhere in the world. Walking distance is around 30 minutes on foot in my opinion. Busses work on gravel road, the road in front of my parents house was gravel until recently.

            • Flying Squid
              link
              fedilink
              English
              110 months ago

              You’re not fucked if the school bus, which is required by law to go to you, goes to you. Which is how it is now.

              And it was -20 F / -28 C here a few days ago. You expect a six-year-old to take a 30-minute walk in that weather? Really?

              • @FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                English
                110 months ago

                If your kid needs 8 hours per day of commuting that should be some form of child abuse, school bus or no.

                Here school is canceled for -20C for under 9th grade and -25C for higher in rural areas, that seems like a fair policy. Though I have walked to school at -25C in 3th grade I think and back because I didnt check the temperature, and that was walking about 40 minutes one way. It was fine, you just need proper clothing and if you live in these cold regions you know that.

                • Flying Squid
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  210 months ago

                  Sorry… it’s child abuse to live on a farm and have children?

                  • @FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    110 months ago

                    It’s child abuse to make your kid spend 8 hours of their day every work day on a bus. If you live in the ass end of nowhere find a better way to educate your kids, it’s the price you pay for living away from civilization, like if I choose to live on top of a mountain I won’t be expecting the postal service to climb 3 million steps to get to me.