• xigoi
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    59 months ago

    No. Mathematical facts hold independently of any universe.

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      You realize the numbers are arbitrary and every universe will have different terms, phrases and orders for these completely arbitrary “numbers” yeah?

      What facts do you speak of?

      • xigoi
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        49 months ago

        Symbols for numbers can obviously be different. Numbers themselves can not.

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          Pardon? We already have multiple different ways to express numbers, they are completely arbitrary. Why would alternate universes not have different ways to express numbers, like we already do?

          Which facts do you speak of?

          If you look at a single item, why do we call it 1? Why not 2? Why not 3? Because it’s arbitrary and the numbers are an expression of what we see. So yes in alternate universes 3 can be between 1 and 2. Since the expression of numbers is meaningless.

          • @alehc@slrpnk.net
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            It could, like we call the number two 10 in binary, or 1+1 or II or whatever. Numbers can have any symbol associated to it, but the abstract object they refer to is the same.

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              The thoughts not about objects though it’s about the arbitrary distinction we’ve made, so I really don’t see why that matters here?

          • xigoi
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            19 months ago

            Did you read my reply? Again, the ways to express numbers can be different, but the numbers themselves can not. Aliens in a different universe may use a different way to denote the number 3, but no matter how they denote it, it is not between 1 and 2.

            • @schmidtster@lemmy.world
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              I did, you clearly haven’t read mine. Your comment has nothing to do with their post, it’s not about objects it’s about the arbitrary distinction we’ve applied to them.