• kase
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    411 months ago

    I’m confused, what are you saying?

    • @joemo
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      -1511 months ago

      So the comment chain reference sports having different divisions for men and women.

      These generally depend on a physical difference between men and woman.

      Why would a sport which removed all physicality, still have separate divisions?

        • @joemo
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          -1111 months ago

          If there’s no difference in sports or shit with men and women, shouldn’t we just have one division?

          If a sport that doesn’t depend on physicality still has separate divisions ( literally chess) what does that mean to you?

          • @SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net
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            811 months ago

            That our society didn’t even let women take part in marathons at one point and the first time someone did that was by just taking part without making clear that they’re a woman and they’ll be themselves taking part in it. You can draw your conclusion from that

            • @joemo
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              Ok let’s look at marathons.

              Boston Marathon. Top woman finished in 2:21:38. That would have been 38th in males times. The top male time was 2:05:54.

              There’s a difference.

          • kase
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            511 months ago

            If there’s no difference in sports or shit with men and women, shouldn’t we just have one division?

            I would think so, yes. I’m no expert on either lol.

            If a sport that doesn’t depend on physicality still has separate divisions ( literally chess) what does that mean to you?

            What is it supposed to mean? I have no idea why it’s like that. Here’s a relevant wikipedia article. I don’t know why you’re asking me this lmao, but I didn’t come here for an argument. I made a joke. Peace out ✌️

            • @joemo
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              Ok, so if there’s no difference between men and women, shouldn’t a top tier woman’s chess player be able to play a top tier men’s chess player and win some games?

              There’s no scenario where a top tier woman’s player beats Magnus Carlsen if he’s trying to win.

                • @joemo
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                  So if Magnus undergoes HRT and is now a female, and he starts competing against other women (which is actually banned by FIDE) would it be an even playing field? Or would Magnus stomp.thrm because he’s actually that much better?

                  Those are the situations that these rules need to consider.

                  I don’t understand why you think I’m a misogynist. I want women to compete against each other on an even playing field. Fuck me right?

                  • RustledTeapot
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                    111 months ago

                    HRT has been conclusively demonstrated to eliminate that advantage after 1-2 years on it.

                    A 1-2 year wait and a hormone check are reasonable to require. A total ban is not.

      • FfaerieOxide
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        011 months ago

        Why would a sport which removed all physicality, still have separate divisions?

        Shithead bigots such as yourself, one would imagine.

        You’re using the existence of an oppression to justify the further propagation of that very oppression, and begging the question further.