Because white supremacists’ arguments are easily dismantled to their core components of idiocy, racism and ignorance. They can’t convince anyone who isn’t a moron racist and they believe that those who don’t think like they do are trying to replace them so they resort to mass murder. Because they are racist morons.
Seriously, when talking about this people use different definitions of “mass shooting” depending on what fits their agenda.
If we’re talking about the “nutter shoots up a public place” type shootings, then those caused about 1400 deaths between the middle of 1964 and the middle of 2021 based on numbers posted by WaPo.
If you define it as “any shooting with more than three dead” then the numbers go way up but a huge chunk of that is gang violence and family annihilators (people who murder-suicide their family). These are different kinds of problems that need to be treated differently. And neither of those is going to respond much to gun control laws.
The difference is less number and more kind/scenario. Look at how they get covered in the media and discussed by the public - the tendency is to talk about “mass shooting” in the sense of a nut (usually with a poorly written manifesto) shooting up a public place but then use the total of cases where more than 3 people are shot in a single incident for how often it happens. These are not describing the same things and will not respond to the same fixes.
But most of those are not the kind of shooting being discussed at all - most of those are things like gang violence, and the numbers killed by nuts going on a rampage is tiny. So tiny that if we were to tally them all up from the mid 60s to May 2021 (time frame chosen because WaPo already did the work, total is about 1400) that we’d still have more people killed in the US in a typical year bare handed.
Gang violence is not going to respond much to the kinds of gun control laws that get proposed to deal with “mass shootings”, in part because those laws tend to target scary-looking rifles above all else and most gang shootings are done with handguns. Even then, they are less likely to be concerned about breaking the law unless the punishment is so draconian that being caught with a gun is a worse risk than being shot by the other guy if things go down.
Nut-with-a-manifesto shooters use whatever guns they have easiest access to, which is why AR-15s are so common - they aren’t an especially good choice for this kind of shooting but they are the most commonly owned rifle in the US by a long shot, if you don’t already have access to one every gun store has them (comparatively cheaply) and has ammo to match the calibers they commonly come in.
Over 80% of mass shootings by white supremacists is not media focus.
You have to skew your media consumption a lot to think violence comes from the left in the US.
Beware of the media bias arguments, they are mostly used by biased media.
More or less, it’s white supremacists related so it gives a bigger number making the article look more impressive (while still showing the propaganda we should fight against).
I wanted to see if you were gonna try to check my claims but that’s not how your brain works. That’s why you end up thinking you’re on the right side of history by fighting people on the left. Go out there and challenge your beliefs.
Or don’t challenge them, your choice, at this point I’ve pretty much given up on your bunch, it makes me too sad and strangers on the Internet don’t deserve that effect on me.
It’s conservatives doing the shootings. Why does it seem that 95% of all mass shooters have a white supremacist manifesto?
Because white supremacists’ arguments are easily dismantled to their core components of idiocy, racism and ignorance. They can’t convince anyone who isn’t a moron racist and they believe that those who don’t think like they do are trying to replace them so they resort to mass murder. Because they are racist morons.
Media bias.
Seriously, when talking about this people use different definitions of “mass shooting” depending on what fits their agenda.
If we’re talking about the “nutter shoots up a public place” type shootings, then those caused about 1400 deaths between the middle of 1964 and the middle of 2021 based on numbers posted by WaPo.
If you define it as “any shooting with more than three dead” then the numbers go way up but a huge chunk of that is gang violence and family annihilators (people who murder-suicide their family). These are different kinds of problems that need to be treated differently. And neither of those is going to respond much to gun control laws.
The definition by the FBI is the only one I’ve seen. What number works for you?
The difference is less number and more kind/scenario. Look at how they get covered in the media and discussed by the public - the tendency is to talk about “mass shooting” in the sense of a nut (usually with a poorly written manifesto) shooting up a public place but then use the total of cases where more than 3 people are shot in a single incident for how often it happens. These are not describing the same things and will not respond to the same fixes.
But most of those are not the kind of shooting being discussed at all - most of those are things like gang violence, and the numbers killed by nuts going on a rampage is tiny. So tiny that if we were to tally them all up from the mid 60s to May 2021 (time frame chosen because WaPo already did the work, total is about 1400) that we’d still have more people killed in the US in a typical year bare handed.
Gang violence is not going to respond much to the kinds of gun control laws that get proposed to deal with “mass shootings”, in part because those laws tend to target scary-looking rifles above all else and most gang shootings are done with handguns. Even then, they are less likely to be concerned about breaking the law unless the punishment is so draconian that being caught with a gun is a worse risk than being shot by the other guy if things go down.
Nut-with-a-manifesto shooters use whatever guns they have easiest access to, which is why AR-15s are so common - they aren’t an especially good choice for this kind of shooting but they are the most commonly owned rifle in the US by a long shot, if you don’t already have access to one every gun store has them (comparatively cheaply) and has ammo to match the calibers they commonly come in.
You had me until your last sentence.
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Finally somebody with brain.
mostly the media focus
Ah, yes, it’s all a lie, that you see through, because YOU are not gullible.
Over 80% of mass shootings by white supremacists is not media focus. You have to skew your media consumption a lot to think violence comes from the left in the US. Beware of the media bias arguments, they are mostly used by biased media.
Well thats just a lie
More or less, it’s white supremacists related so it gives a bigger number making the article look more impressive (while still showing the propaganda we should fight against). I wanted to see if you were gonna try to check my claims but that’s not how your brain works. That’s why you end up thinking you’re on the right side of history by fighting people on the left. Go out there and challenge your beliefs.
You are so full of shit and you know it. I’ve no need to prove an obvious lie is
Or don’t challenge them, your choice, at this point I’ve pretty much given up on your bunch, it makes me too sad and strangers on the Internet don’t deserve that effect on me.
“my bunch” can you think in anything but stereotypes?
Disprove them by attempting to disprove me with actual data.