Personally I think not having karma limits is nice currently! I understand why they were used but grinding karma as a lurker on reddit was frustrating.

    • @ArtVandelay@lemmy.world
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      The original use case for Shadow banning was bots I think. To them it looks like they’re comments are still being posted, but everyone else it’s invisible.

    • Red Wizard 🪄
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      It’s not about making the user leave, because of they know they are banned they’ll try to evade. Shadow banning gives the desired effect while not tipping off the user. So they post away, to nobody.

      • @dannoffs
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        11 year ago

        A lot of the answers in this thread are things Reddit did to address specific problems that they encountered as the user base grew. Lemmy doesn’t have to make the same decisions, but it will inevitably encounter those same problems.

    • @Aganim@lemmy.world
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      IP banning is such an annoyance if you are unlucky enough to only be able to deal with ISPs that do not use fixed IP addresses.

      “Can’t post today, because another random person got my IP ‘du jour’ banned in the past” is a pretty terrible user experience.

      And the pro troll uses Tor or a VPN and only needs to reconnect his client to receive a fresh IP address. I consider IP banning to be a very mediocre tool at best.

      • @CanadaPlus
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        11 year ago

        Pro trolls are a tiny minority, though. Most of them put no effort in whatsoever.

      • @CanadaPlus
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        11 year ago

        How is that possible? On the app maybe? Generally all a website can see is your IP and whatever telemetry your browser sends back.

        • Hmm. Well, maybe my deductions are off. I used only RIF and a unique email address. Caught a ban. Remade account, banned within a few hours. Tried a week later, banned in a few hours. Gave up for a couple months then got a new device. Created an account, lasted for months. So I figured it was the device. Static IP. Email addresses the same just with a random number appended into it with a plus sign like just+283748w9293@emails.com. Wasn’t trying to hide.

          I found the site wide rule against violence to be arbitrarily and poorly enforced. I wrote a lot about legal history and specifically crime and punishment, and I guess my prose and rhetoric sometimes confused the admins into thinking I would ever endorse violence.

          Anyway, found it hard to find your reply here to comment back to you. Browning in jerboa. Could see your reply in the inbox but clicking on it didn’t bring up a reply option, just took me to the full comments. Had to scroll through your posts, you seem pretty chill and reasonable and thanks for making so many comments. I think it’s really about the discussions rather than the top level meme content.

          • @CanadaPlus
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            11 year ago

            Aww, you’re so sweet! I’m sorry you had trouble with that.