So you want software developers to spend less time building the software so they can run a nonprofit too? Do you think all the conferences, sites, fundraising, marketing, extensive help docs, bug processing, and community engagement is all something that can just be done on the side?
Just ask any software dev working st any of these foundations. They don’t want to do any of the business-side work. Or, if they do, they certainly don’t want to do it alone. If they were alone in it, they wouldn’t have time to write code.
Without those things open source would slowly die. All of those are about getting more users for products, getting funding to make them happen, but more importantly, inspiring the next group of contributors.
Open source doesn’t just appear out of thin air. It costs money and time. People need to care about it.
Without users, a project is just a hobby and unlikely to persist long term. Without funding, contributors are forced to abandon for jobs to out food on the table. Without the next group of contributors to pass the torch onto, projects die.
Linus Torvalds had a great Finnish shaman when he started. It reminds me that I must hire a psychic for my 10-years old projects that “would slowly die,” can’t “persist long term,” and “cost money” because I was “forced to abandon [my] job.”
So, let’s go big picture here. Let’s get away from the specifics. Let’s even assume that she’s a bad person to put in place, or that her office is unnecessary.
I’m not donating money to the GNOME Foundation. It’s not my money at stake. Unless you’re a donor, it’s not your money at stake.
I’m not familiar with the GNOME Foundation, but I can tell you right now that it doesn’t get exclusive control of GNOME. They don’t hold IP rights over GNOME software. If people and companies don’t like where they’re going, they can ignore them.
I think that it was Linus Torvalds who once pointed out that his only authority derives from the fact that people generally felt that he was doing a good job, and if that changed, he wouldn’t have that authority.
Even if they fund work on a project, you want to fork an open-source project, you can fork it. Wouldn’t be the first time that a fork has supplanted a parent project.
Developers don’t necessarily make the best fundraisers, auditors, accountants, human resource managers, legal advisors, or any of a hundred other disciplines involved in running a large organisation.
This particular person seems to have extensive experience managing large non-profits and membership organisations; which is exactly what the GNOME Foundation is. There’s no expectation that everyone on the board of directors will know how to cut code…
You don’t understand why a bunch of nerds who talk to computers all day need someone who is able to talk to and understand human beings when interacting with the outside world? It’s pretty common.
yeah i dont really care about what you say for your self or if you are on a spectrum. the meme or rather generalization that haha programmers inept nerds, you can keep for you
I still don’t understand why a software project requires anyone who is not writing software or doing UI/UX.
“I don’t understand why a business needs people that aren’t on the assembly line.” - You, showing the world your ass.
And maybe the fact that they became a business instead of writing code is the reason why they fucked up over the past 20+ years.
So you want software developers to spend less time building the software so they can run a nonprofit too? Do you think all the conferences, sites, fundraising, marketing, extensive help docs, bug processing, and community engagement is all something that can just be done on the side?
Just ask any software dev working st any of these foundations. They don’t want to do any of the business-side work. Or, if they do, they certainly don’t want to do it alone. If they were alone in it, they wouldn’t have time to write code.
BS we don’t need.
Without those things open source would slowly die. All of those are about getting more users for products, getting funding to make them happen, but more importantly, inspiring the next group of contributors.
Open source doesn’t just appear out of thin air. It costs money and time. People need to care about it.
Without users, a project is just a hobby and unlikely to persist long term. Without funding, contributors are forced to abandon for jobs to out food on the table. Without the next group of contributors to pass the torch onto, projects die.
Linus Torvalds had a great Finnish shaman when he started. It reminds me that I must hire a psychic for my 10-years old projects that “would slowly die,” can’t “persist long term,” and “cost money” because I was “forced to abandon [my] job.”
Ooops too late, my projects are dead.
So, let’s go big picture here. Let’s get away from the specifics. Let’s even assume that she’s a bad person to put in place, or that her office is unnecessary.
I’m not donating money to the GNOME Foundation. It’s not my money at stake. Unless you’re a donor, it’s not your money at stake.
I’m not familiar with the GNOME Foundation, but I can tell you right now that it doesn’t get exclusive control of GNOME. They don’t hold IP rights over GNOME software. If people and companies don’t like where they’re going, they can ignore them.
I think that it was Linus Torvalds who once pointed out that his only authority derives from the fact that people generally felt that he was doing a good job, and if that changed, he wouldn’t have that authority.
Even if they fund work on a project, you want to fork an open-source project, you can fork it. Wouldn’t be the first time that a fork has supplanted a parent project.
Developers don’t necessarily make the best fundraisers, auditors, accountants, human resource managers, legal advisors, or any of a hundred other disciplines involved in running a large organisation.
This particular person seems to have extensive experience managing large non-profits and membership organisations; which is exactly what the GNOME Foundation is. There’s no expectation that everyone on the board of directors will know how to cut code…
Someone has to direct them, and have a final say in which features get implemented and which do not. Otherwise the project will go nowhere.
It’s called a developer. Or tech lead if you want. But who I am to tell them that a shaman is not the best solution to fix bugs.
You don’t understand why a bunch of nerds who talk to computers all day need someone who is able to talk to and understand human beings when interacting with the outside world? It’s pretty common.
The outside world doesn’t use Gnome. They should focus on features and bugs.
i do not understand why you are being a bigot
?
when people generalize a group of people for a behavior -> bigotry
Guess I’m bigoted against myself then buddy, as I’m on the Autism spectrum myself (Asperger’s) and am very much a socially awkward “nerd”.
All I meant was, I get it why they do it.
yeah i dont really care about what you say for your self or if you are on a spectrum. the meme or rather generalization that haha programmers inept nerds, you can keep for you
You’re demonstrating it right now by being this upset over my comment instead of taking it for what it is, a lighthearted jab among peers.
Not everybody in the world has malicious intentions. Nobody else here seems to care except you, and this is a Linux sub chock full of programmers.