• Nobsi
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        319 months ago

        Hopefully.
        Fascists don’t understand anything else. Proof: History

        • @Comment105@lemm.ee
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          29 months ago

          Communists can’t be fascist, they have a thin veil of very conditional worker solidarity! They’re inherently good! Stalin was just misunderstood.

          • @orrk@lemmy.world
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            39 months ago

            Ironically, the whole point of Leninism was that Russia wasn’t wealthy enough to be communist, and thus had to have state capitalism watched by a “vanguard party” (who are in theory supposed to keep the capital in check), so not even the Russians believed they did communism.

          • Nobsi
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            209 months ago

            You obviously cannot use your brain, otherwise you wouldn’t say such a stupid thing, but yes. If they were fascist then we should use violence to make them go away. Tiny problem. NATO is not that and you are an idiot for saying such a thing with seriousness.
            Thanks for the joke and letting me answer it seriously.

            • Blue and Orange
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              If NATO is supposed to be a defensive alliance, it should not operate outside of its own borders under any circumstances, yet it has done so multiple times in the past.

              In theory it is an alliance of equals, but in practice it is an enforcer of the foreign policy of its most powerful member, the US. As with Russia in the USSR and the larger Warsaw Pact. If that wasn’t the case, the US would have no use for NATO and would just leave, which is what many European countries would want to avoid at all costs.

              • @Katana314@lemmy.world
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                59 months ago

                The way modern weapons work, defending from within your own borders just isn’t practical anymore. A simple example is those rockets constantly used for strikes in the middle east - often deployable from outside established borders.

                The only true safeguard against those strikes is having a constant awareness of what’s going on - for instance, someone deploying thousands of soldiers right to the edge of their border without actually crossing.

                  • Nobsi
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                    39 months ago

                    I am not in kindergarden anymore.
                    I don’t have the time to argue with childrens understandings of what defensive alliances are and should be.
                    Good night bobby

              • @trafficnab@lemmy.ca
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                179 months ago

                You know things have gone bad when you’re relying on a libertarian think tank literally founded by Charles Koch (as in, the Koch Brothers) as your source

                  • @horsey@lemm.ee
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                    Ah yes, the Lebanese source “Tim Anderson”.

                    the European Parliament went so far as to blame both the USSR under Joseph Stalin, alongside Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler, as being jointly responsible for WW2

                    Uh…. Then he delivers a diatribe on how Stalin’s self-made famine was actually fantastic. Yes, we’ve heard all about that on Lemmy recently, thanks.

                    Yes, very nuanced and well reasoned “Marxist” perspective. Capitalist alliance having members in Eastern Europe: omg, so evil. Capitalist Russia controlling Eastern Europe: great, for some unexplained reason.

              • Nobsi
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                89 months ago

                Yes you are. And i will leave it to the other people that have already told you why to continue. The mods here will probably delete this comment because I haven’t been nice to you :(((

                • @TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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                  -139 months ago

                  I hope not. I respect the discourse despite the insults. Maybe try to see the world from a less Americanized lens.

                  • Nobsi
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                    59 months ago

                    I am. I am not even American.
                    Maybe try to see the world from a lens that doesnt gobble up Propaganda

          • @horsey@lemm.ee
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            149 months ago

            I guess I know what you’re trying to say, but not even remotely close to what fascism means.

          • @Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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            -149 months ago

            My friend NATO was started by a literal nazi, it’s not fascist because it’s imperialist. It’s fascist because it’s fascist.