They very genuinely hate men and thus can’t understand why anyone would “want” to be one, nor do they accept anyone who “once was a man.” Once you see shit like “political lesbianism” thrown around, you understand that there’s just no hope.
It’s like a horseshoe from TERF to toxic masculinity, as both groups are terrified of seeing beauty in men (and all people) and have a very narrow definition of what a man can be.
Where I live its like everyone is pro MTF but against FTM. So you have all these transwomen and nonbinary people who claim they hate terfs but at the same time, they’ll act like FTM isn’t a real thing and they’ll give it a different name and just say “genderqueer” even if you’re talking about someone who is FTM and they refuse to acknowledge the term “Transman” but love Transwomen.
Like it really feels like there is so much in-fighting in the LGBTQ+ community. They often talk about acceptance but I rarely see them put that into practice outside of Pride events.
As a queer person myself I’ve not yet seen something like this at least not something common or popular. The mainstream LGBTQ+ community is clearly accepting of trans men and most of the “in-fighting” in queer communities is made up by conservatives.
And btw you should use trans man instead of transman because the latter implies trans men are somewhat different from “regular” men.
When you write “trans man” you’re using trans as an adjective and as a description of a man. When you use “transman” it’s a new noun and this means it’s a different thing other than just “men”.
also way to piss me off. Like are you trolling? Did you miss the context of my original post? You sure glazed over the discrimination I was talking about just to correct me on something that didn’t need to be corrected.
This really comes off like you’re trying to make this out like I said something I NEVER SAID.
yes I’m mad. I feel like you’re fucking with me and you better not be. Like do everyone a favor and be honest. Are you really trying to have a good faith discussion about this?
I deal with enough racism and homophobia in real life. I don’t want to deal with it here too.
You sure glazed over the discrimination I was talking about
Because it isn’t as widespread in the LGBT-Community as you pretend. Sure there is transphobia even in queer spaces but
It’s also against trans women
It sure waaaaaaaay less than the hate you get from the general public
I was talking about just to correct me on something that didn’t need to be corrected.
That your opinion and most trans people would disagree. And it also was one small point that you wanted to argue about instead of looking it up on the internet.
I deal with enough racism and homophobia in real life. I don’t want to deal with it here too.
I guess you’re trolling right now. This was only about transphobia and nothing else
They very genuinely hate men and thus can’t understand why anyone would “want” to be one, nor do they accept anyone who “once was a man.” Once you see shit like “political lesbianism” thrown around, you understand that there’s just no hope.
It’s like a horseshoe from TERF to toxic masculinity, as both groups are terrified of seeing beauty in men (and all people) and have a very narrow definition of what a man can be.
It’s tribalism, sexists, they have decided an enemy who they feel has somehow collectively acted to wrong them.
Yep, and women are praised for being “tribe builders”.
Toxic, no other word for it. Directly opposed to society, effectively.
Where I live its like everyone is pro MTF but against FTM. So you have all these transwomen and nonbinary people who claim they hate terfs but at the same time, they’ll act like FTM isn’t a real thing and they’ll give it a different name and just say “genderqueer” even if you’re talking about someone who is FTM and they refuse to acknowledge the term “Transman” but love Transwomen.
Like it really feels like there is so much in-fighting in the LGBTQ+ community. They often talk about acceptance but I rarely see them put that into practice outside of Pride events.
As a queer person myself I’ve not yet seen something like this at least not something common or popular. The mainstream LGBTQ+ community is clearly accepting of trans men and most of the “in-fighting” in queer communities is made up by conservatives.
And btw you should use trans man instead of transman because the latter implies trans men are somewhat different from “regular” men.
Can you explain how a space between the words does that?
When you write “trans man” you’re using trans as an adjective and as a description of a man. When you use “transman” it’s a new noun and this means it’s a different thing other than just “men”.
but men is just plural? Like I was referring to a group of people. That doesn’t mean they aren’t men.
This was not about singular or plural it’s about writing “trans man” and “trans men” with a space or not
also way to piss me off. Like are you trolling? Did you miss the context of my original post? You sure glazed over the discrimination I was talking about just to correct me on something that didn’t need to be corrected.
This really comes off like you’re trying to make this out like I said something I NEVER SAID.
yes I’m mad. I feel like you’re fucking with me and you better not be. Like do everyone a favor and be honest. Are you really trying to have a good faith discussion about this?
I deal with enough racism and homophobia in real life. I don’t want to deal with it here too.
Because it isn’t as widespread in the LGBT-Community as you pretend. Sure there is transphobia even in queer spaces but
That your opinion and most trans people would disagree. And it also was one small point that you wanted to argue about instead of looking it up on the internet.
I guess you’re trolling right now. This was only about transphobia and nothing else
I feel like nitpicking things like this is taking away from more important things.
Like the fact that transmen ARE MEN.
I am NOT a conservative and I am NOT making this up.
And I really do not fucking appreciate how you have been talking to me this entire time.
Sure… You’re just using the language that conservatives use and making the same points conservatives do.
just stop trolling or if you’re serious… think about why you do the things conservatives do