• @goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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    1 year ago

    The Soviet Union’s propaganda and culture tick all of those, though.

    But fair, I typically use authoritarian anyway.

    • MxM111
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      51 year ago

      I do not think so. There was no “return to the good old days” in USSR at all. The ideology, while was stressing the importance to defend itself, did not fetishized the military. Nationalism was also missing. And instead there was class fight, common means of production, etc. It was quite different. The only common part was the authoritarian government and the principle that the state is greater than individual.

      • vlad
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        51 year ago

        USSR didn’t fetishize the military? Are you high? Can I have some?

        • MxM111
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          31 year ago

          I lived there. No, military was not fetishized. Most of the people would not want to go and serve. The draft was something to avoid if you can.

            • MxM111
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              31 year ago

              50+. Do not want to give personal information on internet more than needed.

                • MxM111
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                  21 year ago

                  I did not claimed I am. But Soviet ideology and fascist ideology are quite different. It is not like there must be just single ideology that can do bad things.

                  • vlad
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                    11 year ago

                    Authoritarianism?

      • @Akagigahara@lemmy.world
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        21 year ago

        There was the idea of bringing the revolution to others. While mostly after Stalin, the USSR heavily engaged in combat to exert its influence. The Korean and Vietnamese Civil Wars were proxy wars in which both the US and the USSR were engaged in. Then there was the soviet invasion of Afghanistan, too.

        Their propaganda has a lot of hints of glorifying the military, sacrifice and fanaticism.

        • MxM111
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          31 year ago

          You do not do that for the sake of state. You do that for the collective. State is just bureaucratic representation of that. In fascist Germany you would do that for the Germany and German nation specifically. In USSR you do not do that for USSR or USSR nation (there was no such thing).

        • PugJesus
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          21 year ago

          Generally that’s regarded as civic nationalism (“People are bound together by a common government”), whereas most people think of ethnic nationalism (“People are bound together by common descent or culture”) when they speak of nationalism. Though there is a strong argument to be made for the SovUnion being an extension of Russian domination over other ethnicities, just like the Russian Empire which preceded it.