EDIT: no, I don’t sympathize with nazis (neither I sympathize with those who call everyone nazi when they’re losing an argument ;)

  • @mounderfod
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    Tankies aren’t real Communists

    Sucking the dick of authoritarian regimes does not make you communist

    • TheBroodian [none/use name]
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      3210 months ago

      Heaven forbid an actually existing place on the planet actually make some real tangible gains for its people while necessarily suppressing threats

      • @mounderfod
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        There’s “threats” and there’s “anyone remotely criticising the regime”

        There are some tangible gains in these places but also significant losses for the freedoms and rights of their residents

      • @mounderfod
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        I’m bi but no go ahead, call me a homophobe for making a dick joke :p

      • @mounderfod
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        Idk where the homophobia is, I’m partial to sucking the odd dick myself, just not Mao Zedong or Vladimir Putin :p

        • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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          “umm actually I used it as an insult because it’s a good thing!”

          How do you people survive the cognitive dissonance necessary to convince yourself you’re not being bigoted?

          • @mounderfod
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            “you people”?

            Besides, I’m not bigoted because I disagree with your ideology, my way of pointing that out may have been hyperbolic but certainly not bigoted

            • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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              Yeah, you people, people who used homophobic insults about dick sucking but insist it’s ok because they’re gay/bi/have an LGBT friend.

              I agree that you’re not bigoted because you disagree with our ideology, but you are definitely bigoted for using bigoted insults to point it out.

      • @mounderfod
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        I’m not communist, but I do observe that many of the existing “communist” states seem to be just authoritarianism disguised as the common good

        • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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          I’m celebrating the increase in life expectancy from 35 to higher than that of the US, actually, which is the win I think it is.

          The point is not the immediate increase in that specific 5 year period, the point is the clear trend of rapid, long term increases after a long period of stagnation, with the pivitol turning point being exactly when the CPC came to power. You’re supposed to look at the whole graph.

          • @mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de
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            110 months ago

            China never manipulates data coming out of their authoritarian country so good thing we can trust it. I’m sure their life expectancy is great with all their industrial pollution that regularly causes smog in their inner cities.

            • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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              Here is my source do you have a source that disputes that? Or is your belief based entirely on unfalsifiable faith?

              Also curious if you think Chinese life expectancy is still like 35 or what lmao

              You may also be interested in what the World Bank, that infamous communist propaganda rag, has to say:

              Over the past 40 years, the number of people in China with incomes below $1.90 per day – the International Poverty Line as defined by the World Bank to track global extreme poverty– has fallen by close to 800 million. With this, China has contributed close to three-quarters of the global reduction in the number of people living in extreme poverty.

        • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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          My god he can’t read a graph. How has our educational system been allowed to fail for this long?

          I’m not committed at all to China as the salvation of the communist project, but it’s exactly this sort of self-imposed illiteracy and ignorance, and nearly religious faith in the inferiority and duplicity of The Orient that makes me default to distrusting anything negative a cracker says about it.

    • @randint@lemm.ee
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      Careful calling those regimes authoritarian. Hexbears like to attack this point by assigning a slightly different definition to authoritarian and then either (a) claim that all governments are “authoritarian” or (b) blame liberals for using this word to demonize socialist states. I once saw someone cite https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Authoritarianism to “prove” that those states are not authoritarian.

      • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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        Not by “assigning a slightly different definition”, just by applying the definition consistently, rather than using the us-foreign-policy standard.

      • @ScrivenerX@lemm.ee
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        It’s worse than just that. They argue that acknowledgement of Stalin’s atrocities is Holocaust denial.

        They are so scared and insecure they will lash out against anything that slightly challenges their beliefs. If they post sources it will be misreadings of fringe groups, or conveniently ignoring facts. Like how they believe tiananmen square wasn’t a big deal because the China killed about 300 people a mile away. Or how Cuba is a utopia even though it’s citizens chose to get run over by the coast guard instead of living there.