• pjhenry1216
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    -5110 months ago

    I mean, we don’t need to spread toxicity on the fediverse by making fun of folks. I thought we left that behind. If hexbear users become a problem, they can be blocked. Otherwise let folks be whatever they want. We don’t need to recreate the same shitty subs from reddit that just exist to make fun of people.

    • cachesonOP
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      7510 months ago

      On the contrary, mocking tankies and fascists wherever they are found is good and necessary.

      • PugJesus
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        3310 months ago

        Tankies and fascists must never feel welcome, and for the same reasons. Even Chompskyites, monarchists, and ancaps pale in comparison. Tankies and fascists have no interest in being part of a functioning community that isn’t run by them.

        … though I might suggest making ancaps unwelcome simply to avoid the inevitable age of consent arguments.

        • cachesonOP
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          1710 months ago

          I won’t normally try to correct people on it, but fascists and tankies aren’t quite the same. The latter are vile authoritarians, but fascism is a more specific thing, even if it’s still kind of fuzzy and hard to nail down.

          Though if you just meant it as a joke, carry on. o7

          • PugJesus
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            210 months ago

            Tankies are vile human beings with an ultimately good goal (even if no real way of achieving it with their methods).

            Fascists are vile human beings with vile goals.

            • arefx
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              510 months ago

              We’re still better off with none of them, however

            • @ZodiacSF1969@sh.itjust.works
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              -110 months ago

              I wouldn’t say the goal is good. Some aspects of it, yes, even if I don’t agree with it. But they openly call for violence against those they disagree with. I wouldn’t call that good.

              • PugJesus
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                210 months ago

                I mean, I would call that the method. Generally, they theoretically are still calling for an end-goal of stateless communism.

                • @ZodiacSF1969@sh.itjust.works
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                  110 months ago

                  A goal that will never be reached because it is a utopian dream. Human flaws will stop it occurring everytime, and that’s where the big problems are. They can only achieve it through violence, and every time it’s been tried that violence ends up being used to shore up the power of the few at the top.

      • Dr. Wesker
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        You’re starting to sound exactly like them. That’s virtually the same type of emphatic shit they’d say to justify their dunk tank bullshit.

        • English Mobster
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          10 months ago

          Paradox of tolerance, my friend. To maintain a tolerant society, you cannot tolerate intolerance.

          Or, in other words: Tolerance is a social contract. When others break that social contract, you have the right to respond in kind.

          Outright denying genocides and praising Putin’s aggression in Ukraine is what I’d call intolerant. I don’t care what your pronouns are or how LGBTQ friendly you are, supporting fascism and genocide is not okay and breaks the social contract we have.

          • Dr. Wesker
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            -3210 months ago

            You sound exactly like them, I can’t tell the difference.

              • Dr. Wesker
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                -1410 months ago

                The only failure happening, is Lemmy still showing me notifications from y’all impotent toxic avengers in this community, after I blocked it multiple hours ago. So I’ll just start dishing them out individually. Enjoy.

                  • Dr. Wesker
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                    -810 months ago

                    "bad person not using website like gamerman think should

                    gamerman voice opinion on matter, make difference in world"

            • @yata@sh.itjust.works
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              1010 months ago

              Could you specify which parts in the comment you replied to which sounds like tankies? They described the paradox of tolerance perfectly as well as summarised the viewpoints of tankies, neither of which any tankies would say themselves.

              So you can see why people are wondering about your bizarre remark, and some may even suspect you to have been disingenous.

        • cachesonOP
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          810 months ago

          As I alluded to in another comment, I’m not necessarily against the dunking itself, I’m against the death cult ideology that they bring with them. If you find that kind of mockery annoying, then this probably isn’t a community you want to involve yourself in.

    • @GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee
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      1910 months ago

      We don’t need to recreate the same shitty subs from reddit that just exist to make fun of people.

      That’s literally a sub that hexbear has. Dunking on libs. That’s one of the core tenets of hexbear. (I’m not pro or anti hexbear, but they espouse the literal thing you’re defending them for.)

      • pjhenry1216
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        -1010 months ago

        I’m not defending them? I’m just saying we don’t need to create a community to make fun of others. I just think if that’s all that instance is, block it or ask the instance defederate it.

        • cachesonOP
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          1010 months ago

          ask the instance defederate it.

          That’s in progress. The reason for the recent flurry of activity on this community is that hexbear recently federated with sh.itjust.works, and the users of both instances seem to now be pretty unhappy with that decision.

        • @goat@sh.itjust.worksM
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          310 months ago

          Both of these instances, hexbear and lemmygrad, have similar communities that are much older and much larger. Are you going to go to each of these communities and make the same demands?

          • pjhenry1216
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            110 months ago

            No, cause they’re clearly a problem and I recommended defederating instead. Are you suggesting you prefer you rather be like them? You admit they’re a problem but advocate to do the same thing as them. That’s a fucked up defense. You are bringing yourself to their level.

            Moreover, I’m guessing they must be defederated from a lot of the instances in my network because I rarely ever see posts from them. But I see posts making fun of them constantly. So either they’re not a problem and others are or most of them took the nature and less toxic way of dealing with the issue.

            If toxicity shows up in my feed, I’m not s fan and this has been showing up constantly.

            And to circle back, are we four years old now that your argument is that they’re doing it so you can do to too? Jfc, grow the fuck up.

    • @goat@sh.itjust.worksM
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      810 months ago

      I’d like you to make this exact same comment on those instances as well. They have identical communities.

    • @5BC2E7@lemmy.world
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      -510 months ago

      We must make it clear to others before their minds are infected by communist “ideas”. It’s good to shatter the delusion before they are more emboldened

      • Cethin
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        710 months ago

        The issue with hexbear isn’t communism…