Voters want change, but still remain unsatisfied with their options

  • Maeve
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    21 year ago

    I hear you! I’m skeptical of the doctors’ claims, wrt Reagan; they may not want to discredit themselves, due or not. And I’ma skeptic in general, since working political memory, beginning with the Watergate debacle (ik it’s biased, but Rachel Maddow had an interesting reminder of the Agnew charges and how DOJ kept him from running, facing multiple charges).

    I’m not arguing that Biden doesn’t have credentialed advisors, I’m arguing he’s too far right, and that’s evidenced by his voting record/Ms Hill’s complaints during the Thomas confirmation hearings. A singular recent example is the rail worker strikes, and that he supported industry, this “always been a union guy.” Yeah, in the Pullman Car Company union sort of way (10,000 Men Named George).

    • Clairvoidance
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      21 year ago

      Biden is definitely more right than I want him to be, and he might even hide that he’s more than that via the appealing to negotiating with the other side (though there are various motivations we can attribute that to, like wanting to highlight the point of the US political system or to show that the other side doesn’t want to negotiate)
      The unionbusting is definitely atrocious, and I don’t really think he could de-escalate anything Taiwan, and the protectionism turns me the hell off, but outside of that I think he’s doing good for a guy who was initially invited in as Obama’s vice to appeal to the more conservative dems (*simplifying a lot)

      • Maeve
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        21 year ago

        The Dixiecrats?! Yep. I’m sorry, I just can’t get behind him (or Kamala). Wasted though it may be, I have to vote my conscience, whether that’s third party or write-in. I just wish (yes, ik) that everyone else who is dissatisfied would do the same.

        • Clairvoidance
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          21 year ago

          Pfff I’m sorry I didn’t mean dixiecrat i just meant like, ‘way further to the center according to the American overton window’ democrat type. I would still say he does a lot in terms of not making the country fall apart, does get a lot of deals through that matter for the average American (Build Back Better Act for example), has paved the way so that America definitely gets $15 minimum wage if it continues to go progressive, which I do think means having to get the democrats elected for the near future, as the overton window seems to also be decided by what president is in office (what with hatecrimes rising under tfg)

          • Maeve
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            21 year ago

            I definitely understand and appreciate your perspective. “American center” is economically right, ostensibly socially left, and that’s cool; they’re just willing to let us all starve to death on the streets, for “bipartisanship” and business, and that’s a real problem. I mean, Nancy didn’t even want to stop her party from insider trading or even bring it to a vote. These are just one example of a couple of serious issues, but we’ve all seen them wring their hands and claim they can’t do anything. I’m just disgusted with the whole lot.