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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/49277108
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In 2024, [Ahmad-Reza Radan, Iran’s police chief and a vocal supporter of employing force against protesters] visited China and signed a “memorandum on law enforcement cooperation” with China’s minister of public security, Wang XiaoHong, pledging to “upgrade law enforcement and security cooperation” and “strengthen practical collaboration in areas such as counterterrorism” to contribute to regional stability, according to China’s Xinhua state news agency. Neither Xinhua nor IRNA, Iran’s own state news agency, released the memorandum’s full text.
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The People’s Public Security University of China, the country’s top police academy, has run “Advanced Iranian Police Officers Training Programs” since 2015, organized by China’s Ministry of Public Security, according to Chinese school materials and state media reports reviewed by Kharon. Such Iranian cooperation appears to have deepened since, and in 2018, Iran’s National Police University signed a formal agreement institutionalizing more exchange and training programs.
The relationship remains active. On December 25, 2025, just days before Iran’s protests erupted, its ambassador to China visited the People’s Public Security University, pledging to continue “pragmatic cooperation in law enforcement and security,” according to a school press release.
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Tiandy Technologies, a Chinese provider of video surveillance tech, has built deep roots in Iran—and in China’s security establishment.
Its equipment, which flows through sales agents into a country where surveillance technology has reportedly been used to monitor the protests and track dissidents, offers one link between China’s security industry and Tehran’s monitoring capabilities.
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Tiandy Technologies says on its website that it has worked in China’s public security sector for more than 20 years, serving clients including the Ministry of Public Security, which awarded it a first-class science and technology award in 2018.
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Tiandy Center is a subsidiary of Iran-based Ati Negar Basir Elektronik Company and a self-described “distributor of Tiandy Products.” An archived version of its website from July 2025 listed 18 offices across Iran and advertised that if a company becomes a Tiandy representative in Iran, it can also represent other Chinese video-surveillance brands, including Hangzhou Hikvision Digital Technology Co., Ltd. and Zhejiang Dahua Technology Co., Ltd. The U.S. added both those companies to the Entity List in 2019, citing their roles in China’s repression and “high-technology surveillance” of minorities, and it later designated both as companies in China’s military industrial complex.
Elm va Sanat Hafez Gostar Company is another distributor of Tiandy products in Iran. According to an archived version of its website from last month, the company listed Iranian government entities as its customers, including the Iran Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance and the national traffic police. In addition to Tiandy products, Elm va Sanat Hafez Gostar also said it was a representative for Hangzhou Hikvision and Zhejiang Dahua.
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In response to Iran’s protests and crackdown, China has staked out a clear public position: for its security and trading partner’s “stability” and against U.S. intervention.
“We hope the Iranian government and people will overcome the current difficulties and uphold stability in the country,” a Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokeswoman said at a press briefing Wednesday. China opposes, she added, “external interference in other countries’ internal affairs.”
Yes, this is very bad, as China helps the Iranian regime to suppress its citizens. The estimates how many of Iranians have been killed vary, but even the lowest numbers are in the thousands. China is contributing to that by providing the same technology that it uses in Xinjiang and other regions to suppress the population.
A recently leaked wedding video laid bare the luxurious lives of Iran’s political elite and highlights hypocrisy of Islamic Republic. A recent survey found that Iranians are so desperate about their totalitarian government that they agree more on regime change than what might come next. Similar surveys are fully in line with other research such as on in 2022 that found that a majority of Iranian reject compulsory hijab and an Islamic regime.
Reports and interviews of exiled Iranians who have family at home clearly say they want a regime change as ‘people need to take back Iran by ourselves and for ourselves.’
I could continue almost endlessly with such reports, all of them, of course, very reliable, but I guess it woudn’t bear fruit here.
What makes this whataboutism to defend China and authoritarian regimes - because this is how your comment can only be interpreted - is not the whataboutism itself as such is widespread on Lemmy. This time it comes from a moderator, though. It’s amazing how many admins and mods here in the Lemmyverse. There are ‘soft’ versions of the grad and bear communities where violence against civilians is literally celebrated, as another study on left-wing extremism in from last year showed.
We all have different opinions, and that’s good for a lively discussion. But in these communities they are literally cheering the death and the violence against innocent people such as Ukrainian civilians. If you don’t believe me or the study, please feel free to visit their communities and read their post and comment yourself.
You don’t need to convince me that Iran’s or China’s supression of their people is bad. From supression of speech to repressive woman rights and various human right abuses. I wholeheartedly oppose that. I’m against all authoritarian regimes, but it’s not up-to foreign countries, but people of those countries to overthrow them if they desire. In accordance with international law we have no right impose our beliefs on them.
My post was about Kharon site which is run by former U.S. Treasury Intelligence Officials who have active contracts with U.S. Treasury Department and U.S. Customs and Border Protection. In many respects US is worse than Iran and China combined when it comes to human rights and so everything they accuse others of just comes off as hypocritical and whitewashing. I despise US superiority complex and hypocrisy.
Me agreeing with China stating that international law should be followed is not in defense of China, but the aforementioned international law.
Also, the economic crisis in Iran is mostly created by Western sanctions, so if we really cared about Iranians, we would stop that.
All comments I post are my own and have no bearing on my actions as a moderator. If I comment as a moderator that comment will be featured or highlighted (different clients uses different terminology). If you feel like I broken my own community rules, feel free to report that comment or post and I will leave it to instance administrators to resolve.
Yes, the Western sanctions hurt the Iranian society, and I am all in for ending this. I have not looked myself into the data and my knowledge of the Iranian economy is very limited, but what I hear and read from those who do is that ordinary citizens in Iran wouldn’t benefit much from the country’s wealth even if sanctions were lifted. This is one reason why people demand a regime change.
Sanctions directly devalued their currency by 99% of the value. Removing sactions would have enormous effect on ordinary citizens.