The clause was designed to operate directly and immediately upon those who betray their oaths to the Constitution, whether by taking up arms to overturn our government or by waging war on our government by attempting to overturn a presidential election through a bloodless coup.
american here, I never took an oath to the constitution. i know a few folks who served in the military so presumably they did but I sure as hell didnt.
That was their point. It doesn’t apply to the average person because the average person hasn’t taken an oath to the constitution, but politicians who have served terms in office have, so it applies to them
I’m not sure what you’re intending to ask with this question.
Is it theoretically possible for an American citizen to take on a role that would characterize them as a legally defined enemy of the US?
Yes.
Has it happened that American citizens took on roles that made them enemies of the United States?
Yes.
Are all American citizens enemies of the United States by grace of being American citizens?
No.
Does a citizen making a violent attack against the United States with a terroristic intent or with the intent of overthrowing the democratically elected government mean that the citizen violated 14.3?
No.
Is a person who has taken an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States, and having engaged in an attempt to overthrow the government by means of force, or who has aided enemies of the United States including those engaging in such acts or attempts, fall under Section 3 and is thus barred from holding public office without a Congressional removal?
Yes.
That is not what makes their actions the actions of an enemy. They’re enemies whether or not they’re also oath-breakers. They will have to face the consequences of their actions as combatants, terrorists, or however their actions are classified. s3 is an additional bar from them again holding office, since they’ve already demonstrated their propensity to destroy that which is entrusted to them.
are american citizens enemies of the republic per section 3?
american here, I never took an oath to the constitution. i know a few folks who served in the military so presumably they did but I sure as hell didnt.
Trump did and he helped coordinate it, read the indictment in Georgia, they have receipts.
That was their point. It doesn’t apply to the average person because the average person hasn’t taken an oath to the constitution, but politicians who have served terms in office have, so it applies to them
What does that have to do with anything? That’s a nonsensical statement.
go back and read the comment chain, then think about it
Telling people to go back and read the nonsense you wrote doesn’t make it sound less nonsensical, it’s just nonsense we’ve read twice.
And if you participate in insurrection against the country you’ll be disqualified from taking that oath
Do you want to be elected to political office?
I assume it’s just implied cause your a citizen.
You ever say the pledge of allegiance?
Yes? There is your oath.
lol
I’m not sure what you’re intending to ask with this question.
Is it theoretically possible for an American citizen to take on a role that would characterize them as a legally defined enemy of the US?
Yes.
Has it happened that American citizens took on roles that made them enemies of the United States?
Yes.
Are all American citizens enemies of the United States by grace of being American citizens?
No.
Does a citizen making a violent attack against the United States with a terroristic intent or with the intent of overthrowing the democratically elected government mean that the citizen violated 14.3?
No.
Is a person who has taken an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States, and having engaged in an attempt to overthrow the government by means of force, or who has aided enemies of the United States including those engaging in such acts or attempts, fall under Section 3 and is thus barred from holding public office without a Congressional removal?
Yes.
That is not what makes their actions the actions of an enemy. They’re enemies whether or not they’re also oath-breakers. They will have to face the consequences of their actions as combatants, terrorists, or however their actions are classified. s3 is an additional bar from them again holding office, since they’ve already demonstrated their propensity to destroy that which is entrusted to them.
Why would they be?
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