• @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
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    12 days ago

    Not completely but kind of, all those poweroff, reboot etc. tied to systemd, though I believe this is mostly related to polkit run out of time.

    that’s right, but as I remember the error was talking about being unable to launch that KDE-specufic countdown overlay. journalctl has shown such an error for every time I tried to stop the session in any of the ways.

    Normally updates don’t change a thing on Linux since the system runs on RAM.

    that’s not how I understand the system is working. could you elaborate?

    • @muhyb@programming.dev
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      12 days ago

      Oh, I meant a running system. Usually you would only need to reboot if you want to use the new kernel right away after an update. For most of the programs, you don’t even need to restart them if they’re already running. However, if you restart them they will run as the newer updated version.

      • @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
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        112 hours ago

        Usually you would only need to reboot if you want to use the new kernel right away after an update.

        and the new version of all the software that is still running with the old version.

        For most of the programs, you don’t even need to restart them if they’re already running.

        how? won’t they keep being the old version?

        However, if you restart them they will run as the newer updated version.

        oh, yeah, we agree on that. but my point is that in my experience, a lot of software gets very confused if some libs it would use or resource files have changed after they were started. often that’s also the reason why holding back a package’s version makes trouble over time (because certain other packages can’t be updated either), or same with using custom repos that have a different release schedule or maybe are not even in sync with your distro

        • @muhyb@programming.dev
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          17 hours ago

          and the new version of all the software that is still running with the old version.

          That’s why it’s recommended to reboot after a major update, and usually there is a notification for that. But there is usually no need to rush the reboot if you work on something.

          If one needs a certain release of a program I guess using the AppImage version would be the best.