The exact quote:

It is important to us, and we’ve tried to be really clear, we are not doing the yearly cadence. We’re not going to do a bump every year. There’s no reason to do that. And, honestly, from our perspective, that’s kind of not really fair to your customers to come out with something so soon that’s only incrementally better. So we really do want to wait for a generational leap in compute without sacrificing battery life before we ship the real second generation of Steam Deck. But it is something that we’re excited about and we’re working on.

  • astrsk
    link
    fedilink
    1481 month ago

    My biggest concern with SteamDeck was that it would become a 1-2 year upgrade cycle device. I don’t expect the hardware to last 7+ years like normal console lifecycles but I’m very glad to hear they’re being patient and aggressively supporting the software side.

    • @KeefChief13@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      661 month ago

      It’s kind of just becoming an indie or old game portable pc to me. Don’t personally have much interest in playing modern graphically demanding titles on it.

      • Björn Tantau
        link
        fedilink
        81 month ago

        I was really surprised how well Hellblade 2 ran on mine. And supposedly Until Dawn also runs well now. When you can live with 30fps I suspect that well crafted games will be playable for a few more years.

      • @Hagdos@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        71 month ago

        Was it ever intended or fit for that? It’s 2.5 years old, where modern games 2.5 years ago that much less demanding than modern games today?

        • Prinz Kasper
          link
          fedilink
          51 month ago

          2.5 years ago there were a lot more games still targeting last gen consoles as their minimum baseline. Newer games that are current gen consoles only tend to fare a lot worse on steam deck.

        • @KeefChief13@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          51 month ago

          I think the goal was to be able to physically run some version of modern AAA titles when it came out. Although generally, those titles would be downgraded graphically and run at a low frame rate, making it a less than ideal situation for those with alternative options.

      • @deafboy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        31 month ago

        It’s an excellent thin client as well. I’ve played the second half of death stranding through the free tier of Geforce Now.

    • @leopold@lemmy.kde.social
      link
      fedilink
      45
      edit-2
      1 month ago

      I dunno, I expect the Deck to last far longer than the average console if anything. It’s a PC, so the games are pretty much guaranteed to keep coming for decades to come, as they have for decades past.

      The hardware will fall behind, so I think the point where the newest Triple A games won’t be playable will come within a few years, but I bet whatever visual novels or pixelated indie games release in 2035 will still run just fine on it.

      Plus, it’s designed to be repairable, unlike most consoles. And even if Valve stops maintaining SteamOS for the Steam Deck, you’ll still be able to install other distros, so software support isn’t something I’m very concerned about either.

      • @figjam@midwest.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        31 month ago

        Two thoughts.

        1. Space marine 2 didn’t work well so I’m assuming that spankin new games will be hit or miss from here on out.
        2. AAA games have sucked lately. ive played so many good games on my deck that I may have missed on a larger system.
    • @ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      181 month ago

      Shoot. My back log on games is so big, I can be happy with this one for another 5 years before I’d need something with more power.

    • @Defaced@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      151 month ago

      There are a ton of PC gamers who think the only way to play a video game is 1440p 60-144fps and anything below that is unplayable. The reality is the steam deck is a 720p 30fps handheld device that can occasionally make it to 60fps if pushed far enough.

      IMHO a device that can run a game like God of war Ragnarok at 30fps in handheld mode and still play fine when docked is succeeding on the performance front in several aspects. In comparison, the switch version of Wolfenstein the new Colossus had to remove entire sets of geometry to even hit 30fps where the deck can hit that easily with the same settings without removing geometry and using AMD FSR. I think the deck has at least 3 more years in it before we even start to see any needed upgrades at that performance. Only time will tell.

      • @MXX53@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        91 month ago

        The steamdeck seriously changed my perspective of what power I need for a computer and convinced me that I can continue to run my 1080ti for at least a few more years.

        • @weker01@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          51 month ago

          1080’ties really were legendary cards. Back then I only had a 1060ti as my prior card broke unexpectedly and that was all the money I could spare.

          • @MXX53@programming.dev
            link
            fedilink
            21 month ago

            Completely agree! When this bad boy gets retired it is getting disassembled and placed in a shadow box for display.

      • Ham Strokers Ejacula
        link
        fedilink
        English
        6
        edit-2
        1 month ago

        Yeah, this is my take at it as well. Sure, your big beefy PC looks better, but can you play CP2077 at 30,000 feet on a transatlantic flight? Because I have!

        Performance could definitely be better. It would be great if the deck could reliably push 720p 60fps all the time, and maybe some day we’ll get there. But for the moment my deck can push most of the games I throw at it to at least 40 fps, and it can hold 45 decently enough, and that’s good enough for me.

        I play during lunch at work, when I go shopping with the wife, family holiday when nothing is going on, busses, waiting for Dr. appointments, the train, all kinds of places. My steam deck opened up gaming to me by making it available in small pockets of otherwise unused time.

      • @daellat@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        21 month ago

        Yes but that 1440p 144hz is on a 27 inch display on a stationary computer. Why do you think people that prefer that are mutually exclusive with people that are fine with less for a mobile device with a 7 inch display and a battery?

    • @xChronoZerox@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      11
      edit-2
      1 month ago

      It 100% could, everyone thinks they need to be able to generate kratos’ abs, Cloud’s spikes and Keanu…but they don’t. (Removed an extra an)

      • bitwolf
        link
        fedilink
        7
        edit-2
        1 month ago

        Agreed. FSR 3 really is amazing and I’d gladly use that to pull a few more years of playing my favorite games on 720p low.

        Upscalers are great for portables I just hope it’s not used to excuse poor optimization.

        That said I only play fps on my desktop, the steam deck opens up an entirely different class of games for me.

    • @secret300
      link
      41 month ago

      Honestly can’t see that happening. I think valve will want each upgrade to be significant enough you can feel it