• @ShepherdPie@midwest.social
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    571 month ago

    It’s not just the bandwidth that’s the issue it’s the amount of data as many people have datacaps.

    The article says:

    official Microsoft bandwidth recommendation for that game was 50 Mb/s.

    which comes out to 23GB/hr. That can add up quick. 10 hours in a month equates to 20% of my cap with Comcast.

    This also neglects people who live in rural areas that might not even have 50Mbps available and can’t play because MS streams half the game to you rather than include it in the install files.

    Also *Mb/s not MB/s

    • exu
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      611 month ago

      Many countries don’t have data caps on broadband.

        • Echo Dot
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          71 month ago

          Even on mobile my data cap only counts some of the time. Streaming services are not included.

          So I can watch all of the YouTube or Netflix or Disney plus that I want and my data limit never goes anywhere. Basically it’s just for general browsing. Given that the bulk of my usage is streaming my data cap essentially doesn’t exist for me.

        • aname
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          51 month ago

          My friend says they don’t have data caps on mobile in Finland.

          • @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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            1 month ago

            Almost every plan is uncapped, but a few (at least one I know of) does, name the cheapest offering from Moi. But that’s the rare exception and it’s a plan specifically known and tailored to be cheapest of the cheap.

    • Echo Dot
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      421 month ago

      Just to be clear. Comcast which is a major ISP for the United States has data caps?

      I will never understand why the United States insists on living about 30 years behind the rest of the planet.

      • @Crashumbc@lemmy.world
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        141 month ago

        Depends on where you live, most places Comcast just has soft caps.

        The US is actually moving further back. Data caps are a newer thing.

      • @xonigo@lemm.ee
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        101 month ago

        I have a gigabit internet plan with Comcast , cost me $80 a month. And yes there is a 1.2tb data cap each month. Every 50gb that you go over, you are automatically charged an additional $10. Oh I’ll just choose another ISP…nope Comcast is the only option in my town. Not unless I want 5G cell Internet or satellite which is not super reliable or fast.

        • @lud@lemm.ee
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          11 month ago

          Wait what, that’s insane! I can roam over the entire EU (probably EEA too) without roaming charges.

          • @Squizzy@lemmy.world
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            21 month ago

            Yeah they get reamed on roaming, speeds and data caps on top of it. Its crazy.

            They be like “we earn more” and then also have to pay 12000 for medical insurance, 1000 for terrible internet and then a host of localised taxes.

      • @Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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        31 month ago

        Capitalism, an oligarchy that controls major players, and legislation to keep public players out of the game in a lot of places. Even aside from the fact that private companies are able to prevent municipalities from making their own networks, Congress passed taxes to build out a fiber network and let the ISPs do fuck all, to the point that we had been taxed to the tune of $400 BILLION dollars A FUCKING DECADE AGO.

        It constantly amazes me the shit our government lets corporations get away with.

      • Saik0
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        31 month ago

        I will never understand why the United States insists on living about 30 years behind the rest of the planet.

        Just because one shitty company has it doesn’t mean they all do. I have Quantum fiber which is 8/8 gbps at my house with no cap. Only costs me 165$ a month.

        My cousin in a rural as shit location has fiber as well… 10/10 available for 240$. He currently does 1/1gbps and pays something like 65$

        • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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          11 month ago

          Quantum Fiber is Century Link. They have always throttled for going over a cap. They have always advertised no cap and no throttling. They have always waited for you to call customer service with the speed test receipts several times to come clean about doing so.

          • Saik0
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            21 month ago

            Sorry not buying it. You may have had shit experiences with them, but I definitely haven’t. And I definitely don’t believe it’s some overarching hidden policy of theirs.
            This month I’ve pushed nearly 100TB… I’ve never once called in for anything other than for them to fix their jank ass CX6500 (Fucking piece of shit, let me use my own SPF+ stick FFS). Although I’m sure I’d be more frustrated if I ever ran into any issues with billing or anything like that.

            Last 30 days: 56.85TB download and 40.78TB upload.
            Last 7 days: 8.02 TB down, and 6.27 up.

            And I can still spawn speedtests/iperfs that hit near my max 8/8…

            Even more importantly… Since it would be easy for them to just “not” throttle speedtest.net. I can pull out my phone on cellular network and speedtest against my own speedtesting server and match the speeds my phone gets speedtesting to a normal server (since my phone will never be able to saturate 8gbps anyway, but I still get into the 200-300mbps).

            I’ve had users speedtest against my speedtesting server on other networks that were gigabit get those full speeds regularly.

            I see those full speeds torrenting regularly. I see them regularly from steam downloads and other sources as well.

            • @vaxhax@lemmy.world
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              41 month ago

              man… just commenting on your speed test. i worked tech support for an ISP in the late 90s (probably a lot of us around here did) and it is just stunning how far the speed has come. we had 100mb ethernet in the office and felt like pimps. My comcast down is about 1/7 of yours, and my up is not in parity. I do pay to not have a cap though, so there’s that.

              • Saik0
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                21 month ago

                Prior to Quantum coming into the area, I was on Centurylink bonded vDSL. I got 140/25. The only reason I took that over the cox gigablast was because of the lack of data-cap. Higher speeds are useless if I can’t use that speed all the time. The vdsl was more useful at the slower speeds because I could max that lower speed out 24/7 for the whole month if I needed to. 140 at full bore was way more than the 1.2TB cap on coax… (Cox is 1.28TB cap, which you can hit in about 3 hours at full speed… The fuck is the point?)

                Though since then… I’ve definitely grown into using much more bandwidth than I used to.

                I remember 10mbit thinnet though. Hope you didn’t lose the termination plugs. Connecting more than 2 computers together was awesome. The IPX lan games started nearly immediately. We definitely have come a long way. While 8/8 is definitely not needed for 99% of people out there… the tired bullshit of 100/20mbps that most people seem to purchase and not even get is definitely not good enough.

            • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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              11 month ago

              Then I don’t know where you live with century link but if that’s true it’s the one blessed place they don’t do it.

    • Scrubbles
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      101 month ago

      Sure, you can turn off data streaming too. It also allows you to cache the data, just like fs2020. My point is that the article makes it about the speed and makes some arbitrary data points. Your data examples are more accurate than theirs. They only presented a worst case scenario, not what will actually happen

    • @yamanii@lemmy.world
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      41 month ago

      You can force a download of it, just be prepared for the massive install size, which also won’t help the people with data caps.