• @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    7614 hours ago

    Another idiot who thinks “prompt engineering” is a real skill and not just another step those companies are using idiots for free AI training.

    You ask AI to draw a ninja turtle on a skateboard, and that “effort” they put into phrasing their request well enough for the AI to understand makes the AI learn the 10 past attempts were looking for what the 11th got

    And now it won’t take ten tries to go that route

    Any “skill” by the user has a very short expiration date because the next version won’t need it thanks to all the time users spent developing those “skills”.

    But no one impressed with AI is smart enough to realize that. And since they’re the on s training the AI…

    Idiots in, idiots out

    • @hperrin@lemmy.world
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      14 hours ago

      I don’t know about that, in particular, because people generally add more detail, but it teaches the AI what kind of detail to add. So if you’re not picky, then yeah, the AI learns from that kind of thing.

      As far as it being a useful skill, I don’t think it was in the first place. “Prompt engineer” has always been a joke. It’s like being a “sandwich artist”. Everyone can do it with one day of practice.

      • @Dasus@lemmy.world
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        310 hours ago

        I completely agree. I wonder whether some IT bachelor’s degrees now have lessons in AI prompting. I remember in 2005 there was a course we had to do which could’ve been labeled “[shitty] Google-Fu” or something. “information searching” is what it would more or less translate to. Basically searching using Google and library searches well. And I don’t mean “library” in the IT-context, but actual libraries. With books. Just had to use the search tools the locals libraries had.

        Such a fucking filler class.

        In my year like 60 started, two classes. After three years like 8 graduated.

        • @GenderNeutralBro
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          57 hours ago

          I’ve worked with tons of people who do not understand how to effectively use search engines. Maybe this was done poorly but it seems reasonable enough to me in principle.

        • @MutilationWave@lemmy.world
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          It’s kinda dead now due to enshittification but the vast majority of humans I’ve interacted with could use a class on how to use a search engine.

          Edit- it could be made more modern by showing how to ignore sponsored stuff, blatantly SEO shit, AI shit, etc

    • aiccount
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      -2514 hours ago

      I use ai when I use search engines. This makes the search engines better. I also use ai when I get spotify suggestions. I use ai when I use autocorrect. I use ai without even realizing I’m using ai and the ai improves from it, and I and many other people get an improved quality of life from it, that’s why nearly everyone uses it just like I do.

      So, @givesomefucks , do you also regularly use ai that improves from from your usage? Or are you not a hypocrite who thinks there is something morally bad about specific ais that you don’t like while doing exactly what you claim to be against with other ais? How are your moral lines drawn?

      • @GenderNeutralBro
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        25 hours ago

        I think you were downvoted by people who think “AI” was invented in the past decade.

      • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        1213 hours ago

        Thanks for the example!

        Whether an individual determines AI “smart” depends on how smart the person is. We’re all all our own frame of reference.

        I have no doubt AI impresses you every day of your life, even stuff that’s not AI apparently, because not all of your examples were.

        • aiccount
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          12 hours ago

          You are just ignorant of the history and evolution of the term “AI”. It’s easy for anyone to learn about it’s history, your point of view is just one of ignorance of the past.