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A thread yesterday had a variety of people asking if the unemployment is lower because the youth are well cared for.
Please click through and read for additional context. Families are helping. Parents age and are not a long-term plan except for the most unusually wealthy.
Please remember: China is nominally communist. Functionally, they are capitalists with an usual side of excess infrastructure spending. A strong central government doesn’t make a country communist.
Their land use rules… that makes them communist-ish. But that’s a small part of a far larger picture.
What’s the point of downvoting a reply that’s exactly on topic and fully sourced? Is it the redditors again?
Because people don’t like to read the opposite of what the West propaganda shows, it creates a cognitive dissonance with reality and their beliefs, and before questioning their beliefs, they choose to question reality.
I assumed it was downvoted by people who see China as being largely a state capitalist economy with a nominally socialist/communist government, whom I would guess are primarily lefties. Contrary to seeing it as western propaganda, they’d see it as Chinese propaganda as it pretends that the country is something it really isn’t.
This is only a possible view, of course.
They sourced gini information three times, and then cited what dollars-to-donuts is a propaganda work from someone that agrees with them. It’s on topic, but it’s also a lot of words to prop up a weak point.
You could say people should respond instead of downvote, but they also say to pick who you argue with carefully, because most arguments are a waste of time.
Fully sourced means my statements were sourced, not that it was dripping in sources.
Also, the book I cited is not propaganda. Please don’t resort to calling everything that posits an alternate view propaganda.
From the Springer page on the book,
So he has a degree in and is a professor in the exact subject he’s talking about, from a respected University:
Moreover, it’s not some random publisher or some guy’s PDF on the internet. It’s published by Springer which, if you have done any academic reading in almost any field, you will know that Springer content is high-quality and trustworthy. In fact, at a lot of the university libraries I’ve been in, some subjects (maths, especially) are probably three-quarters Springer publications,
Yep, a professor of Marxism in a state-run Chinese university, definitely sounds very neutral. /s
Springer is an academic publisher, but that doesn’t mean they agree with the viewpoints of every niche humanities publication in their catalogue. It’s sort of like how Penguin offers both Das Kapital and Mein Kampf (with a disclaimer that I’m not calling anyone a Nazi).
Even when propaganda is true it’s propaganda. Leftists are usually pretty good about acknowledging that, even.
I’m gonna say it’s because it’s a wall of text with mostly subjective or aspirational statements to rebut a cheap two sentence quippy post.
It would have been sufficient to simply state that China’ inequality problem is improving. If you have the free time for the wall-of-text route, demonstrating how concrete communist policies are directly leading to these improvements would have been much better than the “CCP works really hard to help people” fluff language.