Some time ago, I noticed that youtube comments are copied without emojis, thought nothing of that - bugs happen - but today I finally decided to find out why and what the hell is even this.

  • @Azzu@lemm.eeEnglish
    47•6 months ago

    What exactly does it matter to be stuck with old emojis? Why is it important for them to be perfectly uniform?

      • SanguineParEnglish
        12•6 months ago

        That’s really interesting, I didn’t realise the problem was that bad. I did the quiz at the bottom, tried to answer honestly and only got 5 out of 14 correct.

        • @Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.mlEnglish
          23•6 months ago

          I got 7 and even then that’s only because half way through I began to notice a theme on the really obscure ones with long names.

          These are ridiculous, they often bear no resemblance at all to their supposed meaning wtf? Slanted closed eyes with steam coming out the nostrils isn’t anger it’s… “Triumph”!?

          • SanguineParEnglish
            9•6 months ago

            Yeah, that was a particularly egregious one! Triumph? Triumph?!? Ok then…

            • KubeRootEnglish
              6•5 months ago

              Mind you, emoji were created in Japan, so a lot of the original ones can be weird to us due to cultural differences.

          • ConcettaEnglish
            5•6 months ago

            Would love to see actual use vs intented use on that one lol.

      • LvxferreEnglish
        11•6 months ago

        When they look different people interpret them differently.

        Ah, paralinguistic communication is always like this. Once you change the symbol ever so slightly, the meaning being conveyed also changes.

          • LvxferreEnglish
            11•5 months ago

            Hieroglyphs and kanjis are still linguistic in nature. So no matter how you write a specific unit it’ll be interpreted the same, as long as recognisable as that unit. Here’s a Japanese example:

            sure, they’re written in slightly different ways, but they’re still the same ⟨愛⟩ /ai/ kanji, so it’s still conveying the same meaning (love, affection).

            Emojis on the other hand aren’t typically used to convey a language, even if conveying meaning and found alongside language. That’s what makes them paralinguistic (beyond language), they’re a lot more like “mmhmm, ah!, ahn?” grunts or Italian hand gestures than like kanji or hieroglyphs. And in this sort of paralinguistic system, even little changes on the symbol change its meaning.

            And… well, that’s what we’re seeing here, and the likely reason YT replaced unicode emojis with images. For me at least it’s convenient, might as well uBlock them.

      • @Azzu@lemm.eeEnglish
        5•6 months ago

        I guess that makes more sense now that I see an example. I just can’t fathom how any Apple artist thought they made a “grinning face with smiling eyes” when they looked at that image. It’s “grimacing face with smiling eyes” very obviously. I thought all representations were like the others in this example - they all look like a “grinning face with smiling eyes”. They look different but it doesn’t matter.

        I still think though that if there weren’t obvious mistakes like this, it doesn’t matter how the “grinning face with smiling eyes” exactly looks, or any other emoji for that matter.

      • @bassomitron@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3•6 months ago

        That’s interesting. I wonder how true that still is today, given the study was done in 2016. The study also pointed out that even on the same platform, people on average interpreted the same emojis differently. I’d be interested in an updated study conducted among younger Gen Z to see if being completely raised in the digital age has created various emoji languages, especially across cultures (which they mention they wanted to do at the end of the article as well).