• @Nachorella
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      16 months ago

      You said it wasn’t causal. I’m not sure how else to interpret that.

      • Victoria Antoinette
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        16 months ago

        i also explained that free agent’s actions can only be said to be caused by their own will. that means that “demand” can never cause “supply” (nor, truly, the other way around), since both those terms actually reflect the willful actions of free agents.

        • @Nachorella
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          26 months ago

          Ok, I get you now. That’s just obtuse pedantry. If the demand for animal products goes down, so will supply. This gives an individual the power to lower supply, to choose not to has the same overall effect as killing a few animals. The distinction doesn’t matter. Your actions have consequences whether you like it or not. Animal ag cannot survive without money and whenever you buy animal products you are giving it to them.

            • @Nachorella
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              26 months ago

              Obtuse pedantry is definitely thought terminating. When you just word spaghetti your way out of any argument or dismiss it uncritically instead of actually engaging with it.

              • Victoria Antoinette
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                16 months ago

                my comments are concise, and i don’t require “word spaghetti” to explain flaws in your arguments.

            • @Nachorella
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              26 months ago

              yes, it does.

              I can make compelling arguments, too, see.

                • @Nachorella
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                  16 months ago

                  That’s kind of the point I was making? Sorry for whooshing you.

                  • Victoria Antoinette
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                    16 months ago

                    you’re the one proposing a causal mechanism. it is on you to provide evidence. simply disbelieving (or suspending judgement) is the only rational course until evidence is provided.

          • Victoria Antoinette
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            16 months ago

            If the demand for animal products goes down, so will supply

            that’s not causal, and, also not what the theory of supply and demand says. the theory says that the price will decrease, not that production will.

            • @Nachorella
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              26 months ago

              That’s why when nobody wanted vhs anymore they just kept making them at the exact same rate for less and less money. They’re still producing billions of vhs players every year and selling them at huge losses because wikipedia said something about supply and demand. You’ve cracked the code, you’re morally in the clear now, you found the magic words that absolve you of all personal responsibility. Hoorayyyyyyyy.

                • @Nachorella
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                  16 months ago

                  the fact that demand absolutely influences supply?

                  • Victoria Antoinette
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                    16 months ago

                    “influences” is a pretty weasley word. show me a formula that actually (as in, verifiably) predicts how “demand” (a pretty weasley word itself) influences supply (probably the only concept for which we will be able to produce quantifiable numbers)