• @Nachorella
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    211 days ago

    That’s not how hypotheticals work. It’s just meant to expose the flaw in your logic. In this case you’re arguing that demand for a product is not related to supply. That when dvds came out and nobody wanted a vhs player anymore everyone kept making vhs players anyway because ‘that’s not causal’.

      • @Nachorella
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        111 days ago

        You said it wasn’t causal. I’m not sure how else to interpret that.

        • Victoria Antoinette
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          111 days ago

          i also explained that free agent’s actions can only be said to be caused by their own will. that means that “demand” can never cause “supply” (nor, truly, the other way around), since both those terms actually reflect the willful actions of free agents.

          • @Nachorella
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            211 days ago

            Ok, I get you now. That’s just obtuse pedantry. If the demand for animal products goes down, so will supply. This gives an individual the power to lower supply, to choose not to has the same overall effect as killing a few animals. The distinction doesn’t matter. Your actions have consequences whether you like it or not. Animal ag cannot survive without money and whenever you buy animal products you are giving it to them.

              • @Nachorella
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                211 days ago

                the modern animal ag industry then, pedant.

                  • @Nachorella
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                    110 days ago

                    I mean it’s been tested. When there was no money in VHS they stopped making them. How is this not making sense to you?

            • Victoria Antoinette
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              111 days ago

              If the demand for animal products goes down, so will supply

              that’s not causal, and, also not what the theory of supply and demand says. the theory says that the price will decrease, not that production will.

              • @Nachorella
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                211 days ago

                That’s why when nobody wanted vhs anymore they just kept making them at the exact same rate for less and less money. They’re still producing billions of vhs players every year and selling them at huge losses because wikipedia said something about supply and demand. You’ve cracked the code, you’re morally in the clear now, you found the magic words that absolve you of all personal responsibility. Hoorayyyyyyyy.

              • @Nachorella
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                211 days ago

                yes, it does.

                I can make compelling arguments, too, see.

                  • @Nachorella
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                    110 days ago

                    That’s kind of the point I was making? Sorry for whooshing you.

              • @Nachorella
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                211 days ago

                Obtuse pedantry is definitely thought terminating. When you just word spaghetti your way out of any argument or dismiss it uncritically instead of actually engaging with it.

                • Victoria Antoinette
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                  111 days ago

                  my comments are concise, and i don’t require “word spaghetti” to explain flaws in your arguments.