• @Nachorella
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    6 months ago

    Did you consider my hypothetical? How does your understanding of causation make sense of that?

    edit: sorry, I didn’t see your other reply.

      • @Nachorella
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        26 months ago

        That’s not how hypotheticals work. It’s just meant to expose the flaw in your logic. In this case you’re arguing that demand for a product is not related to supply. That when dvds came out and nobody wanted a vhs player anymore everyone kept making vhs players anyway because ‘that’s not causal’.

          • @Nachorella
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            16 months ago

            You said it wasn’t causal. I’m not sure how else to interpret that.

            • Victoria Antoinette
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              16 months ago

              i also explained that free agent’s actions can only be said to be caused by their own will. that means that “demand” can never cause “supply” (nor, truly, the other way around), since both those terms actually reflect the willful actions of free agents.

              • @Nachorella
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                26 months ago

                Ok, I get you now. That’s just obtuse pedantry. If the demand for animal products goes down, so will supply. This gives an individual the power to lower supply, to choose not to has the same overall effect as killing a few animals. The distinction doesn’t matter. Your actions have consequences whether you like it or not. Animal ag cannot survive without money and whenever you buy animal products you are giving it to them.

                  • @Nachorella
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                    26 months ago

                    yes, it does.

                    I can make compelling arguments, too, see.

                • Victoria Antoinette
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                  16 months ago

                  If the demand for animal products goes down, so will supply

                  that’s not causal, and, also not what the theory of supply and demand says. the theory says that the price will decrease, not that production will.

                  • @Nachorella
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                    26 months ago

                    That’s why when nobody wanted vhs anymore they just kept making them at the exact same rate for less and less money. They’re still producing billions of vhs players every year and selling them at huge losses because wikipedia said something about supply and demand. You’ve cracked the code, you’re morally in the clear now, you found the magic words that absolve you of all personal responsibility. Hoorayyyyyyyy.

                  • @Nachorella
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                    26 months ago

                    the modern animal ag industry then, pedant.

                  • @Nachorella
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                    26 months ago

                    Obtuse pedantry is definitely thought terminating. When you just word spaghetti your way out of any argument or dismiss it uncritically instead of actually engaging with it.