• @ExtremeDullard
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    10 days ago

    I don’t know what it is with Mozilla, they’re both the only saving grace of the open-source browser world and the most stupid internet company at the same time. And they’ve been both for decades, with a budget that could have allowed them to be and to do so much more…

    • @helenslunch@feddit.nl
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      239 days ago
      1. I don’t know why people think Mozilla is a “saving grace” of anything. One glance at their privacy policy proves otherwise.

      2. Mozilla has both a for-profit and non-profit arm, much like RPi (formerly) and OpenAI.

      3. I am fully in support of privacy-preserving ads. Much of the internet runs on ads. All your favorite YouTubers, favorite news sources, etc. are all survived by ads.

      • Tywele
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        199 days ago

        A saving grace in terms of browser engines. They are the only real competitor to Chromium.

      • Veraxus
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        79 days ago

        This whole “for-profit owned by a non-profit” paradigm needs to globally crushed right the fuck now. It should never have been allowed to happen and should not be tolerated.

      • @runiq@feddit.de
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        39 days ago

        I am fully in support of privacy-preserving ads. Much of the internet runs on ads. All your favorite YouTubers, favorite news sources, etc. are all survived by ads.

        I can tolerate ads, but I still wish we had a better financing model for content on the internet at large. Ad tech has a tendency to creep into places where it doesn’t belong. Like task bars, or explorers.

        • JJLinux
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          18 days ago

          Only if you use Windows or OEM/Stock Android. I happen to not see ads ever.

    • sunzu
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      229 days ago

      While both signal and Firefox are lords work… The actual leadership appears to be some clowns. Both appears to be essentially here to maintain status quo where tech nerds get their fix but the fix doesn’t go mainstream. It is a fine line.

      • JackGreenEarth
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        39 days ago

        I don’t know about Signal, but I’ve seen two non tech savvy people using Firefox in the wild.

    • urshanabi [he/they]
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      59 days ago

      they are controlled opposition in my opinion, if you follow the money (i.e. financed primarily by google to my knowledge) and look at their current diversification in service offerings they appear to be ‘privacy-washed’ or ‘ethics-washed’ (for lack of a better term, the equiv. of greenwashing or pinkwashing for tech corps to appear ethical or progressive) with a push to appear as a feature-complete ‘privacy respecting’ alternative to google.

      in my opinion proton is doing the same thing, esp atm with their push towards non-profit status. openai (which is obviously not open in any sense od the word in the industry they operate in) is also i believe governed by a non-profit entity… or at least the for-profit part of their company is.

      non-profit status with larger organizations i think like any other large organization is not worth taking at face value, but idk someone here prob has a better handle on it than i do…