Worth noting I encountered these liberal apologists within MONTHS of Biden taking office. The very day it came to light that he was opening even more concentration camps, there were liberal Democrats crawling all over reddit, tumblr, and twitter to explain why this was good ackshually.
Side note: Never listen when they say “now’s not the time to talk about this in an election year.” That’s a red flag that alerts you that you can safely discard anything else they say after that. They were saying that already in 2021.
it’s sooo cool how you simultaneously blame democrats (and apparently liberals since they are all the same to you) for having too much government reach and action on immigration and the border AND THEN turn around and complain that they are too soft on the border and immigrants are just flying through.
it’s almost as if you’ve been fed talking points by fox News and choose to spew them out loud.
Normally I’d remove this type of fascist-bolstering liberal brainrot, but this is such a perfect example of the type of unhinged bullshit liberals spew whenever they’re confronted with the smallest amount of criticism that I’m leaving it up.
No one in this community thinks Biden is “soft on the border.” What is wrong with you?
No one here is saying they are too soft on the border.
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This is your second and final warning to stop spreading fascist apologia in this community
I don’t think anyone around here thinks that Biden’s being “soft” on the border…or that we should even have a border in the first place…
The phrasing “too much government reach and action on immigration” (because they should have none, which neither party offers) and “soft on the border and immigrants are just flying through” (because any maintenance of the border is unacceptable, whether “soft”-looking or not) really shows how silly it is to try and pigeonhole everything into partisan newspeak. Let’s say it like it is: borders suck and all of us here (I hope) are going to criticize any party or group that wants to continue hurting people because of them, regardless of who they claim to represent.
I mean yeah it totally is lmao.
Wait, you think the United States should not have a border?
No comment on current events but that on isolation is silly.
No state ought to exist, so as a special case it certainly ought not possess a border.
Don’t in the classroom, but the borders already exist, and to dissolve borders would require all connected beyond (at least) to achieve mutual agreement. That’s a fantasy.
To dissolve borders by collaborating with liberals within the existing system is indeed impossible, but is achievable through collective action outside the system. Frankly, collaborating with liberals within their system is a fruitless task for all but the smallest of gains.
Practically, if we want to “get anything done”, it’s not going to happen by hoping and pleading with power brokers to pretty please make things better. So I’m not super interested in how feasible change would be within the halls of power because history has shown that we need to act outside the supervision of power brokers to make the world a better place.
Oh I didn’t know we were doing fantasy stuff.
It’s more practical to discuss and further initiatives that improve the well-being of actual people trying to navigate actual systems in 2024.
To that end, ensuring the elections if as many non pro airlock border / “cage em” republicans is the most important thing. Following that, consistent visible pressure on ideally blue American politicians is critical… Such that they further and sponsor favorable laws the executive branch can enforce. Behind all that, grassroots support of those at the border is not to be forgotten.
What?
What in the crispy fried finger-licking fuck are you on about?