Bidens republican immigration bill goes nowhere so he decides to float his own version of a Muslim ban?

  • @CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world
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    223 days ago

    If the person who is better for the country loses then it is all of our faults. In a democracy it’s up to the citizens to know the candidates, understand the system and what people can and can’t do, understand how the election system works, and be aware of what the stakes are.

    Political campaigns attempt to hold your hand and pull you in a certain direction because it’s in their best interest to do so, but the blame for what happens in January 2025 rests with all of us.

            • queermunist she/her
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              23 days ago

              You’re saying “vote for my guy or else” and then acting like it’s my fault hostage takers are going to execute me.

              But also, that’s complicated by the fact that America is a blight on the world. The world would literally be better off if this shit hole declines because it can’t fuck with everyone else in the world anymore.

              Israel, for instance, wouldn’t be able to do genocide if the US was no longer able to provide weapons and protection.

              • @CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world
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                You’re saying “vote for my guy or else” and then acting like it’s my fault hostage takers are going to execute me.

                I did not say who to vote for or even that you should vote. I only made the point that it’s the people’s responsibility to educate themselves on what is possible and the best course of action. (Then when you said you hated the country I asked if that includes the people.)

                But also, that’s complicated by the fact that America is a blight on the world. The world would literally be better off if this shit hole declines because it can’t fuck with everyone else in the world anymore.

                This is embarrassingly naive. Do you think if the US gets turned upside down — aside from the people living there who don’t deserve to suffer — do you think that the US is going to just tuck away in a corner and the world will be a better place? It would take decades and an incredible amount of suffering before you’d have a US that could not fuck with anyone anymore. If you want to see a former superpower in decline, just take a look at Russia. The more they decline, the more they lash out. The more Putin consolidates power, the more suffering that is caused by the whims of a desperate madman.

                You’re deluding yourself because you desperately don’t want the options you see ahead of you to be the only options. I don’t like the options either. But there’s no magical way to have the US get better fast or go away fast.

                You make whatever choice you want. But at least try to be rational about it.