• Hal-5700X
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    5 months ago

    In this video, you hear her say she’s not going to mute him for the content. She has the tools to solve the problem. But she chose not to use them.

    EDIT Also she deleted the full clip and video from her Twitch. Nothing funny going on here.

    • @Paprika@lemmy.cafe
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      145 months ago

      That doesn’t solve the problem.

      “When you to tell someone to ‘just mute comms’ to avoid harassment, you are essentially putting the harassed person in a position to not communicate,” said Donlon. “To compromise how they want to play the game to accommodate you.”

      “Competitive games need to have room for banter. We believe this, and I do understand the fear that we will sanitise gaming by ‘over-addressing’ these issues,” Donlon continued. “We have no interest in doing that. But we do believe that a person should not have to be in a position to ‘grow a thicker skin’ or whatever other unhelpful suggestions have been thrown out there just to avoid threats of violence or literal hate-speech.”

      It seems all you are trying to accomplish in this thread is to let assholes continue to ruin the experience for others by forcing the victims into silence. No, ban the assholes instead. Easy solution.

      • Hal-5700X
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        -155 months ago

        People have the tools to solve the problem, use them.

        • @zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
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          55 months ago

          The “tool” you want people to use is the equivalent of sticking fingers in your ears and going “la la la la la la la”. Which, you know, is pretty widely recognized as a shitty tool.

        • @chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          5 months ago

          I think a lot of people on hearing this sort of thing once or twice will shut off the game and never play again. To me it seems like a similar kind of situation to a website like a Lemmy instance that removes all the csam spam that gets posted, but not fast enough that most people never see it. In that situation you can’t tell users “just report and block”, there is still a big problem and there is no one that can take responsibility for it other than the people operating the service.

          I played thousands of games of Dota 2, and in that time I heard a woman speak probably like 5 times total, which honestly is very understandable on their part, but still unfortunate. Would be nice to play online games that are not de-facto filtering out everyone who isn’t willing to tolerate being periodically subjected to verbal abuse, especially when it’s extreme forms of verbal abuse.

          • @MentalGymnastics@sh.itjust.works
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            -65 months ago

            Just hit the mute button like it’s not hard. I’ve pressed the mute button a few times it’s really not a big deal. You hit mute then hit report. After a few people do that they get banned.

            Would be nice to play online games that are not de-facto filtering out everyone who isn’t willing to tolerate being periodically subjected to verbal abuse, especially when it’s extreme forms of verbal abuse.

            True snowflake stuff. You don’t live in a perfect fking utopia. Occasionally someone will make fun of you lmfao.

            • @chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              105 months ago

              This doesn’t really address what I’m talking about. I can personally handle people saying mean things to me (though can’t say anyone in an online game ever threatened to rape me), but what I have a problem with is people I might like to interact with being driven out and the space becoming increasingly concentrated with people I don’t like very much.

              • @MentalGymnastics@sh.itjust.works
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                -65 months ago

                I haven’t realized if people are being driven out of the game over someone trolling them. The monthly active players seems to stay consistent over this past few months. I don’t believe people you like to interact with are being driven out of the game.

                • @chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  Well I haven’t played in years, but I strongly suspect that exceptionally low ratio of female voices I referred to was not just because the game itself does not appeal to women.

                  • @MentalGymnastics@sh.itjust.works
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                    -55 months ago

                    The game has never had a female player base anyway. Not a single female esport player? Is it really impossible just don’t like the game? Only 10% of female are gamers anyway. And I don’t think that’s because theyve been victim to trolling. They probably just don’t like gaming anyways.

    • @Dashi@lemmy.world
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      125 months ago

      Her saying she isn’t going to mute him doesn’t give him the go ahead to say the things he did.

      Could this be a publicity stunt? Sure. Does any of this make what he said ok? No

      • Hal-5700X
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        5 months ago

        This is a publicity stunt. All she had to do is to mute him. But she didn’t and made a tweet about it. Now she haves gaming journalists writing articles about her.

        EDIT She could have talked to Riot Games support without making the tweet. But she didn’t.

        • @ABCDE@lemmy.world
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          75 months ago

          How do you know? Getting publicity for this isn’t a bad thing, no matter how you try to make it out to be. Sit down.