• @CanadaPlus
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    1 month ago

    Israelis ⊂ Jews

    I mean, technically, there are non-Jewish Israelis, but we all know they aren’t in the driver’s seat of anything. There’s definitely non-Israeli Jews, like me, and it’s super shitty they’re making me feel bad about it.

    • @CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml
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      129 days ago

      No, that’s not my point. You’re saying “The abused have become abusers”, and while yes, israelis are Jews, abused who became abusers, Jews as a whole aren’t represented by israel, so not all the abused became the abusers.

      So my point is that you can’s say “the abused became the abusers”, only some of the abused became so, who are people with a common identity which is distinct to being Jew, and that identity is zionists.

      Zionists are abused who have become abusers, Jews as a whole have not.

      • @CanadaPlus
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        229 days ago

        For reference, “⊂” means proper subset. That is, a subset which is smaller to some non-zero degree than the whole set. It sounds like we don’t disagree. Again, I’m in the picture here, if only by blood.

    • @lud@lemm.ee
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      -229 days ago

      So in your opinion, all the bad things are done by Jews and non-Jewish Israelis haven’t done anything bad?

      • @CanadaPlus
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        229 days ago

        I have no idea what they do. Why would I? They’re insignificant. The Arab parties, for example, are pretty much a footnote in Israeli politics.