• @masquenox@lemmy.world
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    17 months ago

    Give me a reason atheists can’t get frustrated about religion holding back society in the past?

    Your proof of this?

    • @Demuniac@lemmy.world
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      27 months ago

      How about you answer my question first. Who are you to decide what it means to be an atheist.

      And if you really need examples of that you should read up on human history before you continue any aspect of this discussion.

      • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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        -17 months ago

        How about you answer my question first

        No, no, no - extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

        If you want to blame the west’s invention of white supremacism (for instance) on a Levantine carpenter’s son that lived 2000 years ago you have your work cut out for you.

          • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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            07 months ago

            Why is it that every time I bring up white supremacy edgelord atheists start shrinking away like ice from a bonfire?

            You are “rational” enough not to buy into “race science,” aren’t you?

              • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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                17 months ago

                White supremacy puts the “west” in “western civilization” - do you not see your atheism as an expression of (so-called) “enlightenment” values? Lol!

                There can be no discussion of liberal values without discussing liberalism’s fundamental relationship with white supremacism - and guess where your ideas of atheism comes from?

                • @Demuniac@lemmy.world
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                  17 months ago

                  You’re the only one discussing liberal values here. But you go shout some more in your vacuum. I’m bored of you now.

                  • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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                    17 months ago

                    You’re the only one discussing liberal values

                    Your atheism only exists in liberalism-land, genius - unless you want to claim that your ideology was influenced by feudalism, perhaps?

            • @Demuniac@lemmy.world
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              17 months ago

              Yeah keep jerking yourself, all you do is prove the point of the post. You’re so blinded by trying to be the smart cookie here you forget to actually participate in the discussion.

              It has been fun though, you’re good at reflecting.

                • @Demuniac@lemmy.world
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                  17 months ago

                  As I said, you haven’t actually given an answer to any of my questions yet you somehow want me to respond to some incident that happened to some singular individual 2000 years ago that you read in this singular book of fiction that you happen to believe in.

                  So no, no comment on that, I for sure care less about that then you care about downvotes.

                  • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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                    07 months ago

                    you haven’t actually given an answer to any of my questions

                    You mean… questions like these?

                    holding back society in the past?

                    You know… the ones you base on assumptions you can’t back up with any proof?

                    I for sure care less about that then you

                    I’m starting to suspect that really none of you are truly atheists - it’s more like you are simply edgelords trying your best to be the opposite of religious people by merely fetishizing the non-existence of (insert religious construct here).

                    If true… do you think this is wise?