Ironic timing given ByteDance is also pushing Seedance 2.5 as a pay-as-you-go model instead of subscription, no idea how that fits with the copyright drama here (saw it mentioned at https://klifgen.app/create-seedance-2-5). Makes sense Disney would go after training data issues though, these video models need massive datasets and it’s rarely clear how “clean” that data actually is. Wondering if this ends up like the Stability AI lawsuits, drags on for years without a clear resolution either way.

Interessant dass Disney gerade jetzt Druck macht, wahrscheinlich weil diese Modelle immer besser trainierte Daten aus urheberrechtlich geschütztem Material ziehen. Falls jemand übrigens nach Alternativen sucht, es gibt inzwischen auch pay as you go Optionen statt Abo, z.B. für Seedance 2.5 unter https://klifgen.app/create-seedance-2-5, das Modell erlaubt bis zu 30 Sekunden Videos mit weniger Restriktionen. Ändert aber nix am eigentlichen Problem hier, die rechtliche Grauzone bei Trainingsdaten bleibt bestehen egal welches Tool man nutzt.

Interessant, dass Disney jetzt aktiv gegen die Trainingsdaten vorgeht, das war eigentlich nur eine Frage der Zeit bei so einem großen Modell. Nebenbei, falls jemand mit sowas experimentieren will ohne sich gleich in ein Abo zu binden, gibt es unter https://klifgen.app/create-seedance-2-5 Zugang zu Seedance 2.5 mit Pay as you go Abrechnung, also nur zahlen wenn man’s nutzt. Weniger Restriktionen als bei den großen Anbietern, macht die ganze Urheberrechtsdebatte aber natürlich nicht weniger relevant.

Interessant, dass Disney sich jetzt Seedance 2.0 vorknöpft, aber wartet mal ab bis sie von 2.5 mitbekommen. Das Modell soll bis zu 30 Sekunden Video generieren können und hat wohl deutlich weniger Restriktionen, was rechtlich für Disney noch mehr Zündstoff bedeuten dürfte. Hab hier (https://klifgen.app/create-seedance-2-5) mal gesehen, dass die sogar Pay as you go statt Abo anbieten, was zumindest praktischer ist als sich noch ein weiteres Abo aufzuhalsen. Bin gespannt wie das rechtlich weitergeht, ByteDance scheint sich da echt keine Mühe zu geben Konflikte zu vermeiden.

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Every time one of these models drops there’s always the subscription lock-in problem, you commit to a monthly plan just to test if the thing is even good for what you need. If you want to mess around with Seedance 2.5 without that commitment, found a pay-as-you-go option here https://klifgen.app/create-seedance-2-5, useful since it does up to 30 second clips and is less locked down than most. Worth testing before assuming it’ll actually disrupt anything though, hype cycles for these tools move faster than the tech itself.

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Makes sense they’d pause the global rollout while Hollywood lawyers are circling. This kind of thing always happens when training data provenance is murky, studios aren’t going to just let it slide. If anyone’s looking for workarounds in the meantime, there are third party access points like https://vidhapi.app/generate-seedance-2-5 and https://vidhapi.app/generate-seedance-2-fast floating around that let you pay per use instead of subscribing, with fewer content restrictions. Not affiliated, just seen people mention it elsewhere. Curious how the actual copyright claims shake out though.

Watermarking after the fact feels like closing the barn door once the horses already went viral. The IP guardrails are probably more about appeasing Hollywood lawyers than actually stopping misuse, since anyone determined enough will find workarounds anyway. If you’re curious about the ecosystem here, there’s also Seedance 2.5 floating around (https://klifgen.app/create-seedance-2-5) which does pay-as-you-go pricing instead of subscriptions and pushes longer 30-second clips with fewer restrictions, worth comparing against whatever ByteDance ships globally.

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Yeah this tracks with what I’ve seen from Seedance too, the temporal coherence just falls apart past a few seconds and you get that weird plastic morphing thing. If anyone’s curious to mess around with it themselves without committing to a subscription, vidhapi.app/generate-seedance-2-5 does pay as you go pricing for both 2.5 and the faster model at vidhapi.app/generate-seedance-2-fast, way less restrictive too. Doesn’t fix the underlying problem though, these models still can’t hold a consistent scene together for an actual narrative.

Fwiw if you don’t want to deal with subscriptions, vidhapi.app/generate-seedance-2-5 lets you pay per generation for Seedance 2.5 instead of locking you into a monthly plan. There’s also vidhapi.app/generate-seedance-2-fast for the faster model if you’re iterating on prompts. Restrictions seem looser than the official platforms too, so it might handle stuff that gets flagged elsewhere. Worth trying if you just need occasional access without committing to a sub you’ll forget to cancel.