

I hadn’t made the connection about Sutekh, that’s neat


I hadn’t made the connection about Sutekh, that’s neat


Worth noting that the trendline in that plot would be pointing down anyway, before you include season 4. That tends to happen for every long running TV show.


I did cringe laugh a little at the Doctor and Rose nearly planning our their mortgage repayments.
I think this is the first time we see the orange spacesuits, they’ve become a pretty iconic way to distinguish Who from other sci-fi series where everything in space is white and clean.
There was some good acting from the guest actors this episode.


I enjoyed this one. There’s lots of sci fi elements, good plot points to explore, and it’s directed very well. The sound design is pretty good in this one, I like the mournful music when the black hole is on camera contrasted with the jaunty music during shift change before everything starts to go bad. The slow descent into madness as things start breaking apart is well done, even if it does trigger my “why does no one just talk to each other” detector. I enjoyed the use of a language so old even the tardis can’t help translate it - it adds to the base feeling like it really is remote, and the designs of the underground cavern are nice, it reminds me a bit of Petra in Jordan. There’s a really nice line when the doctor and rose are discussing the black hole - They are gateways to other universes. The doctor replies “not that one”, referencing the fact that this black hole isn’t a doorway, but also implying there’s no way Rose can get back to the other universe where Mickey and Pete are. Finally, actually trapping the doctor without a tardis, rather than handwaving away that it can’t be used like in the Madam Pompadour episode, is a much better way to keep things interesting.
There are some very minor bits I think could have been done a better though. I feel the implication is Doctor and Rose have hung around a bit on the base after the tardis was lost, but some more explicit passage of time would have been nicer. Were they there a couple of hours? weeks? The final trapdoor at the end looks pretty small. It’s big, sure, but not to the extent that justifies the reaction they have on seeing it. Rose takes on the compassionate friend of the ood role, but is dismissed by everyone, and the doctor seems not to mind it either, and I am reminded of Harry Potter where Hermione’s campaign for the house elves is similarly dismised and ignored by everyone. Thankfully we get a follow up of that plotline in a later series, but maybe it was biting a bit too much off at once here.
Overall, really enjoyed this one, and the cliffhanger it ends on feels important, because there’s a lot of mystery still left to resolve.
Random nitpick - In the caves, they throw up a “gravity globe”. It’s a flare. They could have just called it a flare.


It can be a bit difficult to get a read on what Vulcans are thinking as a viewer, It can’t be easy to act them out. I did think ethan peck was good in this one


“high jinks” might be intentional, and meant to be the vulcan’s way of being dismissive of the human’s nonsense by deliberately pronouncing it as two words.


I went into this episode blind, but the moment Scotty mentioned the puppet was going to be the transporter payload I knew we were in for a tuvix situation. I did not realise it would be quite on this scale. I don’t hate the premise of the episode. It reminded me a lot of the TNG episode where they all get turned into children, and this is a universe where Tom Paris got turned into a lizard after all. I do absolutely hate the cop-out at the end where it turns out it was all a dream. It means that spock was the only character that had opportunity for development and growth, and no-one else gets to share in that. Either go all in on the zany adventures, or dont, but never waste the audience’s time like this.
But hey, you want puppets, I’ll judge you on the puppets. I think they were generally well designed. While the “body language” was expressive, I don’t think the faces were as good as they could have been - There were only a handful of times where changes in eyes and eyebrows really stood out. I also feel that the writing and voice acting for the puppet character’s dialogue was not great, but that gets hand-waved away at the end where we realise as puppets they’re not quite the same people The endpoint of letting go and embracing the madness was a nice resolution to the absurd situation, however I did not feel like the cartoon physics played through.
The orion plot was OK, used as the necessary antagonists to drive the plot. But other than some moments from Joe Lo Truglio, who was a perfect choice for an empathetic male orion, the invaders could have been any invading alien species and nothing really specific to orions was needed. I’m also confused by the huge orion vessel, unless I’ve misread the scale, there should be hundreds at least but at no point did anyone think to help out the 3 or 4 orions actually invading the enterprise. But maybe none of this matters, because hey, it was all a dream.
With some of the other gimmicky episodes, I’ve instantly wanted to re-watch them once I finished. Here, once was enough, which is not a great indicator for the episode overall.
Bring on the model collapse!


I didn’t catch that police bit, I love it when background characters get fun business to act out.


I have a no real strong feelings about this one. Kind of middle-of-the-road.
The domestic plotlines are something that this era of Doctor Who has done well. Casual references to “beating it out of you”, presumably referring to homesexuality, casual mysoginy. The final speech confronting the father about fascism is excellent and stands the test of time.
This is another episode where the pair of Doctor and Rose feel to have jumped around a bit. After last episode’s downer ending they’re all upbeat again. This has happened a few times this series. I really enjoyed Detective Rose being clever in this episode, without any prompting from the Doctor.
The monster of the week is kind of confusing and annoying. We’re not given a whole lot of motivation other than “it should have died, but it’s trying to come back” so it’s a ghost story without a ghost. I do not care for the fact that every big villain in DW seems to insist on screetching out a catchphrase: Exterminate. Delete. “Hungry” is particularly offputting. It makes the monster mechanical rather than something alive living in the airwaves. The colour TV joke was a nice bit. At the very end I’m not entirely sure what the Doctor’s plan involved, and how it was supposed to save everyone, but it worked and the episode ends with all the victims smiling and being happy even though they’ve just spend days(?) in non-corporeal hell.
One thing that stands out during a rewatch is the CGI of the people being sucked into the TV does not look anywhere near as creepy as I remember when watching this on a small CRT. I guess there’s something a bit meta about that, given the episode’s TV theme. Depending on the lighting, the faceless toe the line between genuinely creepy and immersion breaking. I could see this working well re-made to discuss mobile phones and being sucked into the internet.


Kor was good. When a new Klingon character is introduced, they need something to differentiate themselves from the stereotype of the honor-bound aggressive wine-guzzler. Kor here stood out in his approach to running the occupation and his presence on the screen.


This is the first episode this season that I’ve really enjoyed.
The direction, lighting, filtering, was all great and on point. I really enjoyed the story, the A plot was a nice wartime rebel story and the B plot was pretty decent too. I was feeling shades of some of the “retro themed” ST episodes from the 90s. The set design was great on the planet.
The Klingons here are used well - seeing the way they act during wartime here they feel almost cardassian in how they treat the native population, but out also makes sense given what we’re told about how they acted during this time. I liked seeing Scotty and Ortega just hanging out. La’an getting help to deal with her problems is good, and seeing her doggedly chase down the truth was nice, though I’m a little unclear in exactly what the chain of events was with the signals and the transporter. Mbenga and una were really sharp on the planet and I enjoyed their acting.


Mickey going off on his own is fitting in a way, though the constant flip-flopping of whether Rose was happy for him to be there or not made it difficult to know if this was a good or bad outcome.


This follow-up is decent. A cliffhanger in usual fashion resolved almost instantly using some well-set up doctor ex machina. Plenty of action scenes balanced by a tense walk through the underground tunnel. Throughout the conversion factory there’s references to Nazis - emotionless processing, people walking in unawares, rejection of impure stock, the incinerators. The scene of the lone cyberman being euthanised after its emotion chip gets broken is pretty harrowing. But this is undermined later on when they’re running around with their heads exploding when all the chips go down at once.
Why is lumic in a wheelchair throne, he’s got a metal body? Thankfully by the end he’s standing up and a bit more menacing, but even then he’s easily defeated in what must be the 3rd “tense quick climb up a ladder while being chased” of the episode. The most terrifying cyberman was converted jackie, and the subsequent scene of them looking back and being unable to tell which is which is quite sad.
The scene of jake reacting to Rickey’s death seemed a bit off for me, I couldn’t figure out why, it seemed dramatic and over the top. I read up on the wiki later and realised they were meant to be in a gay relationship. This completely changes the dynamic and the scene, and I wish had been stated explicitly.
At the end we’re back to doctor and Rose, alone together. Ending with a return trip to see Mum is good. I imagine happening all the time off-screen, given all the trauma everyone usually gets, so seeing it is nice. Ending on a random shooting star twinkle in the alternate universe is weird and makes no sense, but it got a chuckle out of me.
Other minor things I noticed:


Can I get paid a billion dollars to do nothing?


Mixed bag of an episode.
I liked that we got some proper character development - Spock and Kirk coming closer together, an origin point for their friendship is good to see, and the hallucination was a useful way to explain why spock would be willing to open up to such a friendship in the first place. Ortegas and Scotty similarly got some satisfying growth, and the quite unprofessional arguing between them didn’t end drag on for too long.
I did not like the first couple of acts. I know this is meant to be a comedy episode, but none of the jokes really landed for me, it was just kind of a slog to get through. I’m not a big fan of “stoner / drunk” humour in other shows, and it’s not a whole lot better here. I am not sure if the alien host was meant to be funny or charming, but they just came across as mildly annoying. If I compare this to pleasure-planet episodes we’ve seen in other trek shows, I don’t feel the pleasure planet really added a whole lot. CG sequences aside, they were in a fancy hotel more than an actual planet.
Something that really bugged me is that despite repeated references to alternate shifts, at no point did any of the “alphas” think that maybe it might be worth handing off the negotiations or asking for help with the bomb. It speaks to a kind of arrogance that doesn’t really play well given the whole point of the episode is learning to rely on others.
The final act is again mixed. The idea of a pressure bomb, the sci fi equivalent of a landmine, is a great way of building tension, brings ortegas and scotty together fully. But that it then also provides the solution for the diplomatic problems make no sense. The aliens say that particular type of bomb is part of a peace ritual that hasn’t been seen in generations, but then why would a separatist use that for their sabotage?
Overall it was alright, but not amazing.


I enjoyed the interactions Rose had with her not-parents. The rejection she got from Jackie gives a payoff to the Doctor’s insistence that they not involve themselves.
I do think that Rickey and the whole underworld rebel gang needed a bit more space to really feel meaningful. Maybe with some different story opportunities Ricky’s character could have been more fleshed out. Also, I’ve just realised, this is the second time now we’ve had a fake mickey, after the plastic one in S01E01.
I disagree about Lumic and cybermen - these ones in particular. I find the bland horror around the cybermen and Lumics motivation adds to how scary they are. Given what we know about these cybermen specifically, I think they needed someone psychopathic and narrow-focused to make them happen.


Rose is a dinner lady again for the 2nd time this series. :)
I like a good steampunk airship alternate reality. I quite like a lot of what’s hinted at in this alt universe, though it doesn’t all come together perfectly. I enjoyed the UK having a president, one that is no-nonsense and willing to stand for what is right, Don Warrington did a good job. We get basically no explanation for how we ended up in the alternate universe, but I can let that slide.
I was aware of cybermen as a general villain prior to watching this, but this reboot showing them having an origin in a billionaire’s immortality fantasy is pretty horrifying, and sets them up as a more horrifying monster than I remember from the original series. I enjoyed Roger Lloyd Pack as Lumic. As villains go he is kind of pedestrian evil, but I think that works for this story. He has no moral compass or drive beyond saving himself, and thinks he knows what is best for everyone else. As the Doctor mentions, this universe is very close in many respects to our current reality. I’d argue 20 years later things are even worse. We don’t get a daily download, many of us are permanently doomscrolling, and we have far too many tech billionaires being sycophantic about machine intelligence and human connected systems. I could easily see engineers working 24/7 at the office putting on pop music to mask out the horrible stuff they have to do.
As much as I’m not a huge body horror fan, I like that this episode (and the following, as I recall) pulls no punches about how awful everything is. As a kid watching this it was pretty scary, and it set a tone for how I’d think about technology the rest of my life. At the end of the episode we get an pretty good cliffhanger ending.
Praise aside, there’s a lot of stuff in this plot that doesn’t really go anywhere - A throwaway mention of a curfew, class-divided militarized slums, but also there’s people even lower down who’re actually being taken away, Jealous rose is back going at a nobody background character, cybus seems to own and control everything but also needs to get government approval.
Finally, I hate the “delete” catchphrase. The cybermen could have just killed the guests. As maniacal as Lumic is, the one thing he isn’t is funny, so there’s no reason to program the cybermen to use a catchphrase, as I could imagine a Musk or Altman type villain doing.


I don’t disagree with that… I guess limited character growth is one of the disappointing outcomes for any prequel media.
Indie games are good, but if privacy is a concern be careful of any game developed in a big engine like unity. My firewall pings a warning every time I launch a unity game because they all send analytics data back to unity. If it’s single player and you block all outgoing connections by default, you’re fine though.