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9 hours agoI don’t use Godot anymore but this makes me sad. It’s a damn good project.
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Why not just write the code over that week?
2·13 hours agodude hell yeah count me in
2·13 hours agolol shows where my brain is at haha
they’re vc backed? that is offputting.
also whats this about shady dev practices? I haven’t heard about that!
lemme know if that doesn’t work!
Interesting, thats definitely a plus for fluxer.
I definitely understand that it being hosted in the UK isn’t ideal.
Has fluxer indicated they are considering federation? Also, I don’t feel like federation is the only path forward.
I think Stoat is the better option tbh, no tier pricing models for more features and they don’t ask for any info like a birthday etc.
fluxer has those issue plus:
One thing that worries me a little about fluxer is this: Finally, we can offer commercial licences to companies that want to run Fluxer internally without being bound by the AGPLv3 copyleft terms. This is enabled via a contributor-friendly CLA, but it doesn’t create a separate “enterprise edition”. It’s still the same Fluxer software everyone else uses. - https://blog.fluxer.app/how-i-built-fluxer-a-discord-like-chat-app/ They have a CLA on contributions. So while today Fluxer is licensed as AGPLv3, tomorrow they can pull the rug and change the license, just like everyone else has been doing.Stoat is purely open source and donations driven. Just need an email address to sign up and you’re good to go.
Best that we invest into an option now that is more decentralized and community based so we don’t have another discord situation a few years down the line.
Yup, I’m pretty active on the game dev server on stoat. Anyone lurking here, come check it out!
yeah, I don’t love that
This is actually a good point for fluxer. Stoat being UK based isn’t great, I’ll agree with that and it’s something I didn’t even think about until now.
Maybe fluxer being based in sweden (I think) is better? On the surface, I think it is but my knowledge of swedish privacy laws is pretty surface level.
That said, fluxer asks for a date of birth when signing up and also has like pricing tiers and stuff which instantly gives me the ick. Stoat is just like “name and email please” and you’re done lol
This doe a much better job at saying what I was trying to say haha
Ok, I don’t feel to bad now lol I also found Matrix to just kinda be a mess. I don’t run home servers or anything but I’m a fairly experienced linux user and like to poke around tech and all that. I felt kinda dumb for not figuring it out tbh haha
Me either tbh so I did a bit of digging and found that stoat has been around a bit longer and (I know this is a dumb metric for this) seems to have more stars and forks on their github which indicates to me it’ll be around longer.
That said, fluxer has nicer UI imo and I think it has a few more features so it might outdo stoat in the future idk.
Ultimately, I think both are great and likely to be around for a while so just pick one and go with it. They both are open source, use the same license and all that. So you can’t go wrong.
Best of luck in migrating! I wish I had a solution for you
I know folks like the other commenter mention that Matrix is simple and all but I think for the average person that’s just wrong.
Maybe in the fediverse our vision of what the average person can do/understand with/about tech is skewed but trying to get some of my friends onto Matrix would be an absolute nightmare.
Not to mention the VAST majority of people don’t like playing tech detective to figure things out, even if they could, and just wanna sign up and move on with their lives. That is something stoat as offered so far while remaining free and open source.
Weird it works perfectly fine on my mobile data.
Can we all not move to another proprietary paid service again? Good god.
Stoat has been wonderfully simple so far and is free and open source. It’s got voice chat. It’s only been about a week of using it so far so please correct me if I’m wrong or point out issues that I haven’t seen or mentioned.
It seems like the most realistic option to me since I doubt the masses wanna get into self hosting.
I’ll agree we should all self host and be running Linux. While I use Stoat, I’d much prefer if everyone went to matrix too, don’t get me wrong! I use Matrix but don’t know anyone else who does. I know a couple other people who use Stoat though.