This article is so bad I almost threw up, thanks a lot op

None of this is news

Maos turn to Nixon and the subsequent shitty foreign policy of China until 1979 (China hasn’t been to war since 1979) can basically be described as funding and arming whoever was anti-soviet

There’s a reason Maoist groups were heavily infiltrated and funded by the CIA throughout the 70s and 80s (due to their Anti Soviet stance)

Chinas foreign policy since Maos turn to Nixon is essentially “we’ll wait, but we must avoid war at all costs”.

So Chinas foreign policy has been one of not putting their head above the parapet.

When US imperialists wanted to destroy Yugoslavia China was helping the Yugoslavs and got their embassy bombed for that privilege. They then meekly nodded to everything US imperialism wanted even abstaining as the imperialist bastards destroyed Libya in 2011

None of this is news. Mao (erroneously in my opinion) came to the conclusion they would have to hug tightly to the USA until they had far surpassed the USA and do it in such a way that the imperialists could not invade China like they wanted to in 1950 in the Korean war (the plan then was to strike up through Korea, into China then onto Soviet Union but they got bogged down in Korea).

The Chinese have then stepped back into essentially full capitalist relations to avoid war with USA and they have only avoided war with USA because of proletarian heros like Gordon Chang running a psyop on USA by telling them China will collapse every year since 1999 (and the US press believing it). They’ve done this strategically and pragmatically to bind the world economy to China, to avoid a capitalist coalition against it whilst also obtaining as much technology as possible to overtake them. Regardless of their previous awful foreign policy we are where we are and China is moving rapidly into US imperialisms cross hairs. They are becoming Anti-Imperialist by A) force of necessity now US has cross hairs on them and B) by undercutting Western imperialism with the Belt and Road initiative and loads to 3rd world at much better rates than IMF or World Bank as well as their debt forgiveness.

There is something so rat like when opportunists and distorters of Marxism (and the analysis on Imperialism) try to wrap their words in Marxist language due to the theoretical victory of Marxism

China’s complicity in these horrors teaches us that anti-capitalism is a class war, not a war between states, and that any attempt to confront imperialism—the great spawn of capitalism—by those same means is doomed to fail.

In the era of Class Society humans organise into States and class war inevitably becomes a war between States. Does this writer think some Venezuelan can survive and live without being murdered by (US funded) far right militia squads without the utilisation of the State to protect them? Does the writer think the Koreans in DPRK can disband their state and “focus on class war” to “confront imperialism” without organising themselves into a highly organised and disciplined State? When USA practices invading DPRK every year?

Any form of anti-imperialist politics that focuses on nations invariably arrives at pitting one of the faces of capitalism against another, which can only ever reproduce the very system it claims to fight. Only through a confrontation with the entire capitalist world system, no matter the color of its flag, can the nightmare of empire end.

Absolute trash and how does one fight the “entire capitalist system” without first settling accounts with your local bourgeoisie ie. your State

The proletariat of each country must, of course, first of all settle matters with its own bourgeoisie. (Marx, Communist Manifesto)

If humans outside the imperial core wish to survive and not have their populations turned over into a nightmare like The Congo or any number of African States that are completely subservient to international capital and thus have to have their children mining coltan under the threat of child soldiers they must organise into States and States therefore become the principle battleground of imperialism.

If someone here hadn’t already pointed out that Lausan came out the fascist/far right Hong Kong protests I would’ve told you Lausan is CIA (which they are)

From Lausan.hk About Page

傘 (“san”) is the character for umbrella, referencing our ongoing critical engagement with Hong Kong’s social movements. 流傘 is also a homophone of 流散 (decentralized/diaspora), referencing our dispersal across the world. Lausan is a collective of writers, translators, artists, and organizers. We have no founders, only members. We are 100% independent and volunteer-run.

Tip for anyone here: any slipper revolution , any velvet revolution, orange revolution , sunflower revolution and indeed any umbrella revolution is not a revolution. It’s the CIA

Anytime some “pro democracy” group tries to popularise an inanimate object as a symbol of ‘revolution’.

It’s CIA.

Lausan is CIA

https://amp.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3091438/us-has-been-exposed-funding-last-years-hong-kong-protests

Taiwan is not a country

Its not what they’ve historically called themselves and it’s not what is on their passports. What is on their passport is the “Republic of China” and the ROC claims the entire mainland (the PRC) and parts of Mongolia/india/japan and Myanmar as their territory.

ROC is a illegitimate state that no one except a handful of pacific Islands recognise and were it not for the White supremacist USA existing the PRC would’ve rolled over ROC 7 decades ago and the civil war would’ve ended there

There is currently a hangmans noose around PRC and ROC has been at the forefront of this war against China. Acting in the interests of the international bourgeoisie and principally the USA by being an unsinkable aircraft carrier off the coast of China.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vAfeYMONj9E

The KMT fled to Taiwan massacred the natives (the people who did deserve the right of self determination) then used Taiwan as a base for sabotage, assassination and attempted reinvasion of China all helped by USA. Chiang Kai Shek was gearing up for an invasion as late as the 60s during Chinas famine

As this lib explains (from a lib “taiwan is a free country perspective”) that once Taiwan falls it opens up the ocean for the Chinese navy and the ability for US to protect Japan/Korea comes into question and the US alliances will likely fall apart

But there’s more to this than nationalism and identity. Taiwan’s position in the so-called “first island chain” skirting China’s southeast makes it HIGHLY important from a strategic point of view. Controlling it could fatally undermine America’s current power in the region. “If Taiwan falls. If Taiwan were to be occupied by the Chinese military… Analyst Ian Easton wrote a book “The Chinese Invasion Threat” working through these strategic questions. “Then it becomes almost impossible to defend our entire network of treaty allies in the Asia-Pacific. How do we defend Japan from a blockade at that point, or how do we defend South Korea? How do we defend the Philippines? Because at any time they could be invaded from Taiwan if China is there.”

https://youtu.be/VkuNWDG3yNM?t=1107

ROC does not deserve the right of self determination and PRC must take back their territory from the descendants of fascists who then aligned against the majority of Chinese people for 7 decades with the USA. It’s just icing on the cake that it destroys USAs entire network of treaty allies in the Asia-pacific :chefs-kiss:

Some accounts need to be settled and the National People’s Congress was completely correct to vote 2896 to zero on the " Republic of China" issue

The idea of self determination for Taiwan is as ridiculous as suggesting the British in Northern Ireland should have the right of self determination.

The term “whataboutism” was literally invented by the US to deflect from the very real human rights abuses and atrocities the US commits worldwide both at home and abroad

In particular when the Soviets presented the document We Charge Genocide to the United Nations written by black Americans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Charge_Genocide

Giving it free reign to commit atrocities on a global scale, apartheid at home then whine about “whataboutism” anytime someone brings up their flagrant and numerous human rights abuses

The fact you would use “whataboutism” in a sentence unironically suggests youre still a shitlib

Edit: My bad :heart-sickle:

You don’t need to be.

I’ve been trying to popularise this amongst the left (actual left not synthetic left ie. those that demand as the lowest bar for “being left” the absolute and complete destruction of Western imperialism and Western capitalism. Not the synthetic left labour aristocrats that try to “both sides” shit when it comes to Russia/China/Iran/INSERT_WESTS_ENEMY_IT_WANTS_BALKANISE_AND_DESTORY_FOR_NEW_MARKETS)

Is that we should all be learning from conservatives and particularly Roger Stone

Who’s philosophy is Never defend, Attack, Attack, Attack

Some cuckold brings up the wildly discredited black book of communism “100 million dead under gommies” bring up the fact that British capitalism is responsible for 1.8 billion indian deaths alone so surely 100 million dead from every communist country in the 20th century is a million times better than 1 capitalist nation? If they change tact point out under the metrics of that defined “100 million dead” India achieves that every 20 years

Another cuckold brings up Xinjiang (a recent topic) point out that the US has starved 27 million Yeminis in a completely manmade famine which is over double the population of Xinjiang so why don’t they shut their fucking mouth and focus on a problem they can at least pressure their government about.

They bring up the falsified “slaves picking cotton in Xinjiang” (an obviously emotionally charged call to USsians with US particular history) point out how come they have no problem with slave children farming chocolate in the Ivory Coast , the fact that Burmese slaves are pumped full of amphetamines and tied to the prows of boats and pulled apart if they disobey orders or how come they have no problem with the child slaves of the Congo mining coltan for their mobile phones and laptops?

Bring up the fact that only 2 years the US army was bombing the Uyghurs in the East Turkestan Islamic Movement which the US designated as terrorists up until this year

You can adjust your honesty, disingenuous, vitriol and disgust at liberals and conservatives with depending on how dishonest and disingenuous they’re being but leftists should understand that even the “well meaning liberals” that at least pretend to be based in reality are in fact disingenuous, disgusting gaslighting pieces of shit and you should have no moral qualm about being as disingenuous, flexible with reality or gaslighting in return.

In for a penny out for a pound

These lib and conservative disgusting pieces of shit that now pretend to care about muslim lives in Xinjiang (definitely the human rights they care about and not the geopolitical rivalry opening up between West and China) remind them that they said nothing whilst the US sanctioned Iraq to the point half a million children died in Iraq and the US secretary of state went on TV to tell people “it was worth it” and that they have literally murdered millions of muslims since they began funding the head chopping jihadis in the 80s where Osama Bin Laden built up his networks in the Muhajadeen

You don’t owe these people anything and you should start viewing how you interact with them as a game for your entertainment

How would you know?

Im sorry your parents abused you and decided to chop a piece of you off in the name of batshit religious tradition

https://circumcision.org/circumcision-affects-female-sexual-pleasure/

The foreskin has thousands of nerve endings for pleasure during sex

Even if your circumcision was perfect you were still made a little less human

There were obviously no free and fair elections in the USSR.

Guardian looking at gerry mandered maps, voting machines that have never, ever matched with exit polls, the fact Presidential candidacy is closed to non billionaires, voters purged off rolls, the captured state of the RNC and the DNC (who get to decide who can and cannot run), the role of the billionaire Murdoch press in elections, the fact Princeton and Harvard consider the US an oligarchy and finally the fact most senators are millionaires

Very free, very fair and democratic

:side-eye-1: :side-eye-2:

If the wheat fields are part of Rojava why do they burn them?

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-kurdish-militia-burn-wheat-fields-qamishli/5679629

Rojava literally occupied Syrian wheat fields with the US to starve Syrian cities

The Kurds and their US ally hold the wheat as a trump card in ongoing negotiations.

“Assad needs access to cereal crops in northeast Syria to prevent a bread crisis in the areas of western Syria that he controls,” Syria analyst Nicholas Heras said. “Wheat is a weapon of great power in this next phase of the Syrian conflict,” said Heras, and he added that the Kurds and their US ally “have a significant stockpile of this wheat weapon. It can be used to apply pressure on the (Syrian government), and on Russia, to force concessions in the UN-led diplomatic process.”

https://theduran.com/the-us-is-using-wheat-as-a-weapon-of-war-in-syria/

Whilst also ethnic cleansing non Kurds

The non-Kurdish population is a mix of Syrian Arabs, Syrian Christians, Syrian Armenians and many of them have suffered under the Kurdish administration, which saw non-Kurds being ethnically cleansed, as they lost homes, shops, and farms at the hands of the SDF.(ibid)

They then got ditched by the US immediately and fed into Turkeys meat grinder. As if no one has ever read even a tiny bit of history of what US does to its “allies” when it is balkanising and using divide and rule tactics to destroy countries it has geopolitical strategic interest in. So not only was allying with the Great Satan a fucking terrible idea it was counter-productive for them

Unsurprisingly I’m not a fan. I remember talking to David Graeber about this on twitter and it was the most pathetic display of mental gymnastics I’ve ever seen. Like if you believe the Kurds had to ally with the Great Satan to create their Kurdish state that’s good and cool. But its then a bit rich if you shit on Actually Existing Socialist countries who had to build their nations under the conditions of opposition to US imperialism rather than as an ally to it.

Can you provide reading material on Syrian “nazi style fascism”?

Ctrl + f’d for “cia” in that article

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Oh you Jacobin and your state-dept-socialism, never change

Succinct and under appreciated answer

The US going down like UK is not going to happen

Both USA and Soviet Union played a big role in the death of British empire.

Increasingly Britain played a subordinate role until it had essentially handed off its neocolonial ties to the US and become the lapdog of the US

By 1960 the US was a debtor nation. After the world financial system moved off the gold standard the US insisted that the world trade in petro dollarsand made it plain to Iran and Saudia Arabia that it meant war if they dared trade in anything else.

The consequence is a bankrupt nation demanding that other countries cycle their capital into USD.

“Never before has a bankrupt nation dared insist that its bankruptcy become the foundation of world economic policy; that, because of its bankruptcy, all the nations what their economies transferring its bankruptcy to themselves, stultifying their industries, and paying tribute to the beggar.”

“Effectively speaking, the United States has compelled the older nations of the West to pay for the overseas costs of the US war in Asia. Whatever they may desire, the central banks of Europe had no choice but to continue to except the paper dollar equivalents annually created as the domestic and overseas deficit of the United States increase. Otherwise, the whole of shaky structure of the world monetary system will collapse into rubble. America has succeeded in forcing other nations to pay for its wars on a systematic basis, something never before accomplished by any nation in history .”

https://michael-hudson.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/superimperialism.pdf

In Michael Hudsons Super Imperialism Michael goes through this entire process for brevity it means the US can essentially print as much money as it likes whilst having its imperialist wars paid for by Europe like mafioso racket who in turn had to issue austerity against their own people

What does this mean for US empire? Its debt is at sky rocket levels and the only reason the world allows it is because… points to the US military budget

Meanwhile China is playing a deeply progressive role in financing infrastructure and loans across africa and ME and bringing both stability, wealth and prosperity and an alternative to neoliberal world bank and imf which play the role of indebting nations then forcing their local resources to the US

China holdsthe most US debt butboth Russia and China are getting rid of their dollars and with the rise of China they are cutting into US imperialisms pie

To put it bluntly imagine a house of cards built off US dollars. Each dollar pulled out causes inflation which means US military is more expensive to finance which is the gun pointed at the worlds head to prop up this ridiculous process. At the end of this process US will have no gun

Each one pulled out by China will not be a slow process… It will be a tipping point then the entire house falls down into hyperinflation with a currency thats worth nothing

“China will gradually decrease its holdings of US debt to about $800billion under normal circumstances. But of course, China might sell all of its US bonds in an extreme case, like a military conflict,” Xi Junyang, a professor at the Shanghai University of Finance and Economics told the Global Times on Thursday”

(Note it is not just a “professor” saying this. GlobalTimes is the CPCs main outlet and this was on the front page)

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1199833.shtml

The US (i believe) will go to war to maintain its status quo and it can either go to war with a small % chance of maintaining status quo or it can die a death of a thousand cuts and collapse in a cascade anyway. If i were chapos i would be organising yesterday because imperialism turned inward is fascism

But China’s renewed determination to dump both dollar denominated bonds and dollars is a developing crisis for America and the Fed’s monetary policy. We can expect further threats to materialise from the Americans to China’s ownership of US Treasuries and agency bonds. It is a situation that could threaten to escalate rapidly out of control before China has disposed of the bulk of her dollar-denominated bonds.

The certain victim will be the dollar. And as the dollar sinks, China will be blamed and tensions are bound to escalate between China and her Asian partners on one side, and America and her security partners on the other. The start of this additional crisis was the turning point last March, when the Fed publicly stated its inflation credentials. With nearly $3 trillion in its reserves, it is not surprising that China is acting to protect herself.

With so much dollar debt and dollars in foreign ownership, it is hard to see how a substantial fall in the dollar’s purchasing power can be avoided and the Fed’s funding of the budget deficit badly disrupted.

https://www.goldmoney.com/research/goldmoney-insights/china-is-killing-the-dollar

Ironically, those protests are in international solidarity with the US BLM movement - not with the US black lives matter movement in international solidarity with Yemen/Libya/China/Nigeria or any other of the many nations under the yoke of US imperialism etc

Well done on proving my point

I’ve been dunked!

Anti civ types can fuck all the way off

Their entire outlook is based on an ahististorical and colonial view of the world and (absolutely unsurprisingly) due to their anti civilisation and doomer outlook they end up repeating ecofascist nonsense

The Comintern abandoned the term in the interwar period essentially to beg for alliances with the Social-Democrats and calling them “Social-Fascists” was completely antagonistic to Soviet foreign policy during that period

And what happened? Did the Social-Democrats force their governments to ally with the Soviets?

No, we saw Chamberlain collude with Hitler to try and turn the Nazi army east, we saw Daladier do the exact same.

France, under so-called “Socialist” Daladier, ratfucked Czechoslovakia by not activating the defence treaty that France and the Soviet Union had signed. (France and USSR signed a treaty with Czechoslovakia to come to her defence. However due to the anticommunism of the period the Czech President said that the Soviet Union could only defend Czechoslovakia if France came first to her defence. The reason he did this was because he suspected if only the Soviets came to his defence the capitalist pigs in France/UK would ally with the fascists and display this as “Communist aggression” and wage war on the Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union.) Instead France allowed Czechoslovakia to be carved up because they thought they were playing 5d chess to get Hitler to go east into the Soviet Union.

Social democratic parties all over Europe collaborated with Hitler.

Take Hungary, Hungarys Succdem party was never even banned under Hitlerite occupation so instep with fascism they were

Let’s not beat about the bush - It was correct Soviet foreign policy once the Nazis had risen in 1933 to stop calling SuccDems Social-Fascists but doesn’t make it any less true

This is all ironic of course on a page where we are discussing a Social-Democrat that supports fascism “over there”.

“Firstly, it is not true that fascism is only the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. Fascism is not only a military-technical category. Fascism is the bourgeoisie’s fighting organisation that relies on the active support of Social-Democracy. Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism. There is no ground for assuming that the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of Social-Democracy. There is just as little ground for thinking that Social-Democracy can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. These organisations do not negate, but supplement each other. They are not antipodes, they are twins. Fascism is an informal political bloc of these two chief organisations; a bloc, which arose in the circumstances of the post-war crisis of imperialism, and which is intended for combating the proletarian revolution. The bourgeoisie cannot retain power without such a bloc. It would therefore be a mistake to think that “pacifism” signifies the liquidation of fascism. In the present situation, “pacifism” is the strengthening of fascism with its moderate, Social-Democratic wing pushed into the forefront.”

J. V. STALIN, from , “Concerning the International Situation,” 1924.

Dogshit article. If this person considers themselves a Communist they’re a shit one.

often proclaiming imperialism to be the primary contradiction that must be confronted,

WEE-WAW-WEE-WAW-WEE-WAW

Imperialism is the primary contradiction. Immperialism has turned the 1st world into a kind of Elysium and the rest of the world into a child slave labour work camp who’s only chance at a decent life is to abandon everything and get into the “safe zone”.

In the 20th Century the primary contradiction was between Capitalism and Socialism. With the fall of the USSR the primary contradiction is between the Right Of Nations To Self Determination (even under a bourgeois context as Lenin described) and the “Washington Consensus” ie. Imperialism.

Why a member of a Marxist-Leninist party would choose to work with a man who spent part of his professional career targeting communists for persecution is baffling.

Because who gives a shit. Brian Becker is a communist organiser so he’s already on every list imaginable. There seems to be a trend of Communists obsessed with Opsec (looking at Bayarea 415).

That only works if you’re considering Maoist guerilla tactics or something. If you’re an organiser the cops and spooks already know who you are and are tapping you’re phone/net connection etc. And if you’re a public facing communist in any capacity you’ve already made the decision that if you’re effective in any way you’ll likely see the inside of a prison

Lionel is an anti-vaxxer, 9/11-truther, virulent transphobe and quite open anti-communist and Trump fan. He is probably the last person in the world anyone on the left should want to have discussing Trump endorsing anti-Muslim propaganda, yet he was Loud & Clear’s choice.

Literally who gives a shit. Right wing conspiracy theories arise out of a non-class conscious proletariat. If you put class politics in front of most conspiracy types they’ll connect the dots. That it is a global cabal of capitalists that run and control everything (not jews). That nations will act in a profit driven interest against the will of the people. etc. etc.

There is a recurring theme here other than Loud & Clear’s guests being either LaRouchite entryists or outright belonging to the far right, and that theme is opposition to the ridiculous Russiagate theory. But opposing such nonsense absolutely does not require platforming crypto-fash, anti-semites and various other far-right bigots.

No platforming is hot garbage. The only people who ever get properly no platformed are Communists and there was a current of Communists warning against demanding stuff like Infowars be banned and ever since the State has used this to alter the algorithym for left wing newspapers and completely shut out anti-imperialist and communist voices.

And once again platforming right wingers and putting class politics in front of them is a good thing - because you’ll likekly hook a few of their listeners from a reactionary pipeline

Syria as directed by Israel. In fact he says “the only way you can explain what the US has been doing in Syria” is advancing Israeli interests. Not only is this idea that Israel directs US policy rooted in anti-semitism, it also requires ignoring the rather straight-forward fact that the State of Israel is a US client state and serves to advance US interests in the region.

So Israel didn’t occupy the Golan Heights? Israel serves US interest but it also on many occasions has been the tail wagging the dog

The masked opportunists, the Kautskyites, are much more harmful and dangerous to the labour movement, because they hide their advocacy of alliance with the former under a cloak of plausible, pseudo-“Marxist” catchwords and pacifist slogans.

Which is ridiculous because communists are not pacifists

We’re all for revolutionary war

What’s problematic about Assad?

Tell me without regurgitating CIA talking points

In 2012 a majority of Syrians supported Assad (55%) yet from reading most Western media you’d think this was something like 12 percent. That was the height of the opposition movement. Within a year (2013) most of the opposition went back to the government after seeing what the West was doing in supplying weapons to any jihadist head chopper that would kill Assad.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jan/17/syrians-support-assad-western-propaganda

Trump won the election in 2016 with only 46.1%

2012 - Obama won with 51%

2008 Obama won with 52%

So who is more legitimate?

If you retreat from a leader that has stood firm in the face in the most disgusting onslaught the West has launched against another sovereign nation since Iraq then you will end up retreating to someone like Corbyn - who will be smeared as a Maoist/Communist/Czech spy/antisemite anyway

May as well have some principles and stand like a rock instead of like a weathervane by trying to appease liberals