You are asking for ambiguity

Eh

Yeah bad wording on my part. Sorry I’m working on multiple things ATM.

I ment you are seeing ambiguity that is not there.

As I explained else where. The rest of the media and even fararge in another news article last night. Seems to disagree that this deal meets any Brexit claim.

They see no abniguity in this meaning all UK food production domestic and export. Must continue meet EU equive standards to ensure less documentation is needed.

It has after all been the crux of the UK EU trade issue from day one.

Yes I am. Based on a whole history of treaty talks since Brexit where the whole topic was based on trading standards and how alignment was why we could not join the customs union.

Expecting a fucking news article to teach you the topics you seem to have missed. Is expecting ELI5

And you you did suggest a meaning, when you openly interpreted the article as a good benefit of Brexit. And stated that it said nothing about domestic food standards.

You were specifically claiming we had some form of double standard that applies to food we export and food we don’t.

Nothing in the article claims that. And I can assure you we as a nation do not. So you invested that meaning to make your rather pathetic point about the deal matching some Brexit benefit.

I made a very clear pretty close to ELI5 maybe 10. Of why I and the other poster was able to interpret the “aligned to EU standards” as relating to domestic sales. Based entirely on facts differing news have covered in detail while May and Bojo were negotiating.

Your failure to understand such simple points. Is likely why you voted Brexit.

No one said anything was ok. Just the possible thought prosses of people not you and myself.

Being unable to consider the ideas of others sans your own ideas. Is why people fail to change minds.

There is a reason the labour right is obsessed with the idea “power is needed to invoke any change”. Mainly a long history of losing when ideals override winning. So not implementing any ideals.

And it is needed for the left to understand their fears to address them.

They can be wrong. But without understanding their motives and just assuming all you disagree with is evil. You and I will fail to engage them at all.

And yes the media etc dose fuck up opinions. But knowing it ourselves is only if value if we use that knowledge to form a strategy.

Yet you fail to provide a clear unambiguous interpretation on what else alignment of food standards means.

Or exactly how it is even possible for our food standards to meet the EUs. Without it requiring domestic sales to meet those same standards.

You are asking for ambiguity in something you alone seem able to miss interpret. The rest of the Brexit crowd are not seeing this as a win for them. Just you.

And sorry to tell you this. But not everyone in the UK believes that fact. Just because you and I agree. Dose not mean voters as a majority do.

I did not consider Corbyn actions to be antisemitic. But he still lost the election due to a large % of voters being convinced it was. That is the issue with democracy. The majority can be wrong. It’s down to you to convince them of the truth. Not them to just know lies are lies.

Your need for an ELI5 is not my issue.

It’s not a confusion. Our standards are what we require folks to sell food in the UK. If our standards and the EU are aligned. You have to be pretty fucking stupid to keep insisting that dose not relate to domestic sales.

What the fuck else do you think standards aligned actually means.

Agree with your comment but.

While blaming Corbyn is a huge miss application of the actual event.

Their is a little logic in the idea that the public and media reaction to the events has limited starmers flexibility.

It is Def an issue that is still able to fuck the party. No matter the cause.

Labour have not been in power for 4 years. Less then 1.

Pay your taxes and we may have reason to support your AI needs.

Otherwise fuck the hell off and solve your own inferstructure needs. Or maybe ask the nations you register your shitty tax avoidance plans in to build then.

She also was very careful on what she chose to privatise. As the party did not support it.

The pre 1979 Tory party has to be convinced to call for BT privatisation. s most considered it utilities and expected nationalisation. It took till the early 90s to convince the party as a whole that the nation wanted rail and utilities nationalised.

Sure. But that is not the EUs problem. It is an issue with the UK. And not one we needed to leave the EU to fix. But instead agree on a party willing to change it.

The UK electorate has not been able to do that.

Much like most other EU nations got to vote on expansion of the EU mandate.

Our democratic leadership chose not to. So we again voted them in power so did get to vote.

The whole Brexit argument was based on UK government failure being pushed as EU issues. It sure as hell was not the EU as an org that lacks democratic ideals.

Yep they did.

Every nation in the EU is a democracy it is a requirement.

They elect there leaders. Those leaders send representatives to the council.

And citizens elect mep that approve or reject council mandates.

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You mean the arbitrary climate goals Germany and all members of the EU made up.

The EU is not some nebulous org that doesn’t exist without it’s members. Germany was a huge part of the members calling for these goals.

As was the UK in absolutely everything brexiters complained about.

Yes it dose just not in ELI5 language.

Alignment of on EU food standards clearly states our own standards must match the EUs.

Thanks.

Reread.

Alignment of UK food standards. Means our own standards must continue to meet the EUs.

This is the only reason the EU will ever accept removal of documentation confirming the standards followed in food it will eat.

And exactly what remainers claimed about EU trade throughout the ref.

It is also the exact reason the US trade deals keep failing. Their food standards do not meet ours. So importing US food into the UK would mean deals like this. Where our food standards must align are impossible.

It really is not that complex. If your standards don’t meet those of the folks your selling to. Your companies are required to proove the items sold meet their standards not yours. Hence all the last 4 years of difficulties selling to the EU. Has been created by brexiters insisting we should not follow EU aligned standards. Creating the same mountains of paperwork any nation with differing standards face selling to the EU.

The same reason the US wants us to accept chlorinated chicken. So they do not have to proove all their chicken is kept to the same standards we currently require.

They can sell chicken to us now if they are willing to breed it as we do and provide evidence at each import that they did so. Just like we are with the EU now.

But a trade deal giving them simple trade would require alignment between our rules.

All those ISO EN and CE standards you see on electronics and toys. Are the same thing for non food standards. If China wants to sell crap to the UK they need that documention. Of course it’s up to the UK to enforce those standards. Hence why non aligned crap gets in. But food tends to be closer watched.

Unfortunately the reason it won’t happen. Is it will be seen as also an entrance tax.

Discouraging wealthy investors from settling in the UK.

And given most wealthy living in the UK manage to avoid taxes. Anything discouraging them from leaving is not really going to achieve much. They will just stay and find/fund other ways to avoid taxation.

If I say “the life support system for the USS Enterprise”,

Unfortunately contact mean that example dose work both ways.

If we say enterprise system for life support. People will also understand.

But voyager system for enterprise could apply either way. To be fitted to enterprise or allow enterprise activity on voyager. Or voyager activity on enterprise. For is just bad language in this context.

Here Microsoft should’ve used a possessive. Voyagers enterprise support system would be more normal.

Or Windows Linux support system.

But marketing and a history of no other OS matters means Mickey$oft insists on it’s own layout. Over language clarity.

States it in the article