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  • Your experience is very different from mine. I usually have to dig in and fix crap that shouldnt be wrong in ubuntu long before I even get to the upgrade phase! Lots of circular problems: oh this snap doesn’t have the full dependencies. Thats ok, I know how to edit them. Except that didn’t work, so lets add the PPA. But that was out of date, lets build from scratch… and so on.

    Edit: Let me add something: Glad it worked for you. And Ubuntu is Linux, and we have that in common, and I want to make sure this type of discussion is always framed under “SAME TEAM!”


  • Wow, that is impressive. I have been using Linux full time since around 2003. Have had it on a lot of machines in a variety of flavors. Ubuntu was always the one that did something stupid that I had to figure out to fix, and by stupid I mean Canonical’s choices more than anything else. Your example gives me hope at least.

    I am using an Arch rolling now that was installed about 5 years ago, and it has been far easier to maintain than anything else. Maybe that is because change is incremental, instead of all at once. My laptop has Fedora for a couple of years and that too has been painless. I have not done a single thing except click update on that machine.

    The other desktops/laptops are a variety of Debian, Suse, and Slack just to keep things interesting, but are not used nearly as frequently, so dont get updated as often.


  • Seriously? You have successfully managed to upgrade Ubuntu since 2014? Just to be clear, on desktops?

    So you went through 3 desktop environment changes, systemd changes, snap environment changes, and it all worked? I am shocked.

    Like I said the last time I even tried Ubuntu a default out of then box feature was broken by default.

    And with desktops, it’s always some thing: the snap needs editing and is missing dependencies, a ppa is required, etc. On the server it’s fine but the desktop environment usually requires effort every other update.

    Like I said, even at ububtu 4 I broke it in a week and went back to Debian.




  • I put Fedora on a laptop as a whim almost 2 years ago.

    My main computers are arch, but. I had an iso handy and hadn’t used anything from based in years.

    I am surprised at how quickly it gets updates. Gimp was at 3 before arch stable.

    Anyways, I just keep updating the laptop and it just keeps working. I have yet to actually do anything for maintenance on it.