What I find beautiful about Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter’s relationship with Fidel Castro is that beneath the Cold War labels, they could recognize something genuinely Progressive in one another: a belief that ordinary people deserved dignity, healthcare, education, housing, food and a government that served human beings rather than simply serving wealth and power.
Carter was a Southern Progressive with a deep commitment to Human Rights, peace, poverty reduction and the Common Good. Castro built his politics around the idea that society had an obligation to provide for people who had historically been left behind.
That’s the part that speaks to my worldview. I’m much more interested in what people are actually fighting for than in the Cold War boxes we’re expected to put them in. Two people can come from completely different political traditions and still recognize the same fundamental truth: human life should matter more than profit, domination or political tribalism.
That’s why I love the Carter legacy. It reminds me that Progressive politics at its best is bigger than party labels. It’s about human dignity, economic justice, peace and the belief that ordinary people deserve better.
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And then everyone lived happily ever after… The End.
What happened after this? Did Jimmy Carter lift the US trade sanctions that the US placed on Cuba to starve the Cuban people? No, he did not. Instead Jimmy Carter used the US trade sanctions to create an immigration crisis which caused Cuban people to flee to the US. Then Jimmy Carter continued to call for the overthrow of the Cuban Government decades later.
In Jimmy Carter’s 2002 speech during his trip to Cuba, Jimmy Carter said that Cuba was a not a Democracy and talked about pursuing restitution of property to the former Cuban capitalist class. For Jimmy Carter, being pro-democracy means being aligned with the interests of the bourgeois class.
The original pic in this post was from at the end of their lives. This pic is from the beginning of their friendship in the early 2000s.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
No matter how much they may seem to hate each other as they send us to die for them, the Epstein class will always be friends in the end. <3
Please explain what you mean by that. It is a true statement that has no place here, as Castro was not part of the Epstein class and was in fact one of its most hated enemies
I would also argue that Jimmy and Rosalynn weren’t part of that class either. The “Epstein class” is very conservative and has sabotaged and overthrown leftist societies and installed right-wing governments around the world.
Carter was personal friends with Pinochet
Hated or not, their class interests are the same. A formal conspiracy is not required when interests align. The systems which kept Caste in power and Carter out of prison are the same which allowed Epstein and company to do what they did.
… How??? Castro was the revolutionary leader of a small Communist nation. Carter was the head of the US Empire. What system are you talking about that they could possibly have in common?!
Exactly. What do they have in common? What possible reason would these two have to be friends which is strong enough that the suffering caused to the Cuban people by Carter could be dismissed?
There is exactly 0 proof they were friends. They had a more amicable relationship as leaders of their respective nations compared to previous US presidents, but friendship is a stretch among stretches. It would be like saying Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un are friends because they acted slightly more amicably than the previous near genocidal rhetoric of other Americkan leaders.
What would you consider “proof” in this scenario?
An admission of friendship from Castro outside of diplomatic communication would be a start, maybe some personal correspondence unrelated to necessary diplomatic communication, and probably some pictures of him with Carter where he doesn’t look entirely pissed off to have to be around him like he does in the ones provided in this post.
So far all we have is you asserting it and then using it as a springboard to say some pretty ridiculous nonsense backed by nothing.
You’re gonna need to explain this one comrade
Consider Carter’s track record when it comes to communism. Sanctions, embargo, war… the countless lives taken, in Cuba alone, because of his actions.
What possible connection could these two people have which would overcome all of that and allow them to become lifelong friends? If Carter still held power at that time that would be one thing, but he didn’t. They are friends because Castro doesn’t see the deaths of the Cuban people as a deal breaker in a friendship.
I mean the Epstein stuff, also Carter after his presidency did a lot for disease eradication. That’s something that he aligns with Castro on.
Damn was Castro named?
Absolutely no fucking way, the propaganda would have been ENDLESSLY talking about it.
Thank you Castro for clearing that up.
No way. Also mostly wrong time frame I’d think. I’ve heard/read stuff in the past that the CIA tried to honeypot him once or twice during their endless attempts to assasinate him.
No lol
Well, if he could have been drawn in by Epstein, the CIA wouldn’t have made 600 odd attempts to assassinate him.
left “unity” and its consequences
Why would I desire unity with the intolerant?
i honestly can’t say why i would need “unity” with western chauvinists. but i guess hexbear is supposed to be a bit unserious.
Chauvinist? That’s a new one.
Care to explain that choice of insult? I mean, obviously you wouldn’t just be using random terms whose meaning you don’t know. So please, enlighten me?
it’s chauvinism to repeat western propaganda as fact, when the purpose of that propaganda is to justify and facilitate its aggression against the people of the world. it’s chauvinism to go online and tell everyone you know more than the class-conscious proletariat of cuba about the conditions in cuba and their roots.
Who exactly is the class conscious Cuban I spoke over, and when did I tell you that my words are facts?
My words are from my perspective, and from my perspective Castro was a liberal who associated with the likes of Jimmy Carter.
yes, when you assert something, you are saying that it is a fact. i don’t want to spend too much time debating the idea that the things you claim as fact are things you claim as fact.
what was the nature of this association with carter? can we deal in concrete facts rather than abstract moralism?
