More than just ‘what app are you using’, but I do want that as well.
I want a good mindset for downloading music that has what I want and at least some of what I’ll probably like.
Currently, partially as a limitation of the app, I have every song in every album that contains something I like. This works well ish for discovery, but I know less than a quarter of my library, no matter how much time I spend listening to new music. This was with Lidar + tubifary (Tidal and Slskd only).
Currently I’m trying Downtify configured with slskd and yt as a backup, but it seems very slow to download and the app itself is very laggy.
I go out to thrift stores, buy CDs and I make a little boat to ship CDs in. I would hope someone just send me a boat back with CDs I’d listen to. To make sure of it, every CD I ship out, has a notecard written about what genre of music I like, what artists I particularly like, what genres I don’t like and what artists I don’t wish to hear.
This is how I make my trade. I’m a real pirate, arrrr.
Newly created account account asking where our pirated sources are and asking for quite intimate details
Interesting
🤔
Y’all are way too trusting
Intimate details?
I’m asking for a strategy that could almost as easily apply to Spotify.
Well, it is because firehawk52 is throwing in the towel, that’s why, as he used to be the go to for web dl ing from streaming services
I pay for Spotify, but since some of my favourite songs are not available anymore (they’re greyed out, as if they lost the rights) I decided I won’t renew. Back to piracy!
Occasionally yt-***
But mostly relying on old big library of mp3s from oink’s 20 years ago.
I don’t know all this fancy stuff. Like, yesterday, I wanted to listen to the songs from the anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya so I grabbed them from nyaa, moved them from the “Downloads” directory to the “Music” directory and then played it with VLC.🤷♀️
If it works, it works. Don’t fix what ain’t broken.
When you run into issues of scale, hopefully the ecosystem is a little more forgiving
Yeah, to be fair, I mostly pirate video. Music, I listen to from Tidal through USB Audio Player (Android). I only ever grab audio that’s not available on Tidal.
Personally I just use Nicotine+ to grab whatever I want as a .flac, then use beets to organize them.
I also use Nicotine+ but I have Picard for organization.
Ah I hadn’t heard of Picard before, I’ll take a look!
I’ve tried beets. Very manual. I like Nicotine
Newpipe : download audio VLC : play audio
archivetune is better
I download albums (through piracy or not) and add them to my modest mp3 collection the same way I used to buy CDs — once in a while when it seems like a good idea. If there’s an album I don’t think is worth listening to again, I delete it.
I delete it.
HERESY!!!
Acquisation:
- Buy CD and then rip with ExactAudioCopy
- Buy media from various sellers like Bandcamp, ototoy, Amazon Music, etc. (basically the official vendor that sells the artists music)
- Acquire FLAC or MP3 through various means lile nyaa, slskd, indexer, DDL
Manage:
- Lidarr. If not available in Lidarr, create entry in musicbrainz, wait 7 days then import
Listen:
- Jellyfin
- Symfonium
Dropped needle (newer version of musicseerr) plugged into lidarr and slsk. Using musicbrainz. A few good indexers/sources on the back end set to flac and high quality versions for the profile. Relatively fast and good coverage overall. Slsk helps to fill in the gaps
I open amazon music and copy over all the album and single links from an artist I like to lucida to download them all as flacs, then I use an ffmpeg script to convert them all to 320kb mp3s. I reformat the names and metadata and put them into my music folder.
I enjoy my music.
Interesting. I forgot lucida was a thing.
lidarr + streamrip (tidal, i have a subscription there, so not free, my point is owning the music offline, dont really mind paying, esp bcs tidal gives a bit more money to musicians than spotify) + navidrome + music assistant
music assistant also has tidal linked, meaning i have the full catalogue and discovery via streaming.
if i like a song, i tell streamrip to download the album, put it into navidrome, and music assistant will then actually start using the local version which is cool
I’ve used Tidal Plus lidarr, and that’s probably been my favorite setup. What does Music Assistant and StreamRip add to this stack? I don’t know either of these apps.
streamrip downloads songs from tidal/quobuz/spotify so you have a drm free local copy
music assistant is a part of home assistant, meaning i integrate my local music library into my smart home with music assistant.
i also have audiobookshelf (selfhosted audiobooks obv) and nextcloud gpodder (selfhosted podcast subscription and listen history sync) hooked into it, meaning in one app that has access to all speakers in my home and also my smartphone, i can listen to all audio related stuff
this then allows me to do fancy stuff like, when i’m at home and connect my headphones to my phone, it transfers to playback queue from my main speaker setup to my phone, automatically stopping the music there and starting it on my phone, and when i disconnect my hradphones when at home, it transfers iz back and i can continuously listen to one queue on mutliple devices.
Same setup. I did “make” a crappy bridge between Lidarr and Streamrip to search and download from my Qobuz subscription.
What did the script do?
I get my music from discord servers and sometimes soulseek if I can’t find a song or album, and then play it using USB Audio Player Pro since I use an external dac. Symfonium is also another great player with a highly customisable interface that I sometimes use
I second the Symfonium recommendation - Feishin is a great desktop player as well. Click the now playing album on the bottom left for a full screen mode with visualiser/lyrics/up next screen present alongside the now playing info 👍🏼
Symfonium is a paid app. I use Tempus (which is free) and while it has fewer features, it’s more than enough for me.
It’s so worth it for the price (it was like $1.50 in my region) Tempus looks great, it Reminds me of Oto Music which is also another great free player that has the fastest library scanner I’ve found in any player I’ve tried which is very useful if you have a large music library like I do
It’s a lot more expensive in Europe, 9EUR. Not saying it’s not worth it, just that I don’t really feel like I need it.
Oto music also has a really good music tagger that also lets you edit metadata for entire albums in bulk, which is the only reason I use it for lol
Good old Soulseek, but filtering by opus.
I’m still very much in the process of finding what will work for me. Music Assistant to somewhat merge my YT Music and my locally stored files in one workflow. Last.fm and Listenbrainz scrobbling for generating recommendations for me. Maybe in a while I’ll feel like I don’t want YTM anymore, but right now I still find it hard to leave it fully. Lidarr and Tubifarry are also part of my stack.
On ‘good mindset’: I’m afraid that’s still something that needs attention, and I hope to find it with what I currently use as I’m still too comfortable streaming YTM.
