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      All of them began under Trump’s term or after his election, when Biden/Harris were being actively sidelined by the GOP. With the exception of the incursion into the West Bank, which went from minor skirmishes run by settlers to major, organized operations by the IDF under trump.

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        Uh no. The Israelis have been occupying the West Bank for decades.

        Israel attacked Iran first directly in April 2024 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Iran–Israel_conflict.

        The invasion of Lebanon began in September 2024.

        Syria was in 2024 as well.

        or after his election, when Biden/Harris were being actively sidelined by the GOP

        That’s nonsense. They held power until Trump was inaugurated.

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          West Bank: yes they have. The violence in the last two years rivals that of the decade prior, though. They know trump don’t care.

          Israel attacked Iran, and it was over in two days. Now, it’s six months in and ongoing.

          The invasion of Lebanon in terms of IDF regular troops on Lebanon soil, displacing civilians began in 2025.

          Syrian civil war was in 2024. The involvement of IDF ground troops began after the election of trump.

          Even if youre right (which you are not), trump has made it all worse. Is that your intent? To make things worse, to kill more brown folks that you use as political tokens? Do you need that trump win that bad? You could just admit it. Wear that maga hat proud. Don’t do this cowardly shit where you pretend you don’t like what happening. Own it. I’d at least be able to respect you having the balls to own it.

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            Literally ever example you gave was before Trump was reelected. Except Syria, which was while Biden was still in office and held power. Hell, due to the SCOTUS decision, he was even held immune to prosecution for any actions.

            He and his administration could have cut off arms to Israel in a minute. They chose not to.

            to kill more brown folks that you use as political tokens

            You’re the one that voted for genocide, shithead.

            trump has made it all worse

            Except your examples are all from under Biden.

            Do you need that trump win that bad?

            I’m not a Trump supporter. Unlike you, I don’t support people doing genocide.

            I’d at least be able to respect you having the balls to own it.

            No honey, you have no respect for anyone, not even yourself, politically. You just want your team to win so you can go back to brunch, and don’t care what it costs.

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              I really don’t know what to say except you’re just flat wrong. Like you’re just making shit up now. Biden was not president in 2025/2026.

              And you stood back and stood by while the genocide got worse. I voted to make it not as bad.

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                buddy, I went through your claims one by one. None started in 25 or 26 - it seems you just started paying attention when it was Trump running the genocide, and not Biden.

                I voted to make it not as bad.

                Oh, you didn’t vote for Harris or Trump? Because otherwise you voted for a genocide.

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                  The Israeli invasion of Lebanon began on March 16th, 2026. Was Biden president then?

                  The US war against Iran started in in 2026. Was Biden president then?

                  The organized IDF invasion and annexation of the West Bank (not just a skirmish) began jan 21, 2025. The day trump was inaugurated.

                  The only thing that Biden was president for was the Israeli invasion of Syria, on December 8th, 2024. At this point he has lost the election and was being sidelined. That’s the closest thing you have to a factual statement.

                  Because otherwise you voted for a genocide

                  Oh. Did your heroic non-voting prevent the genocide? Or did it just put trump in power for the above? The genocide was going to happen. The options were less genocide or more genocide. I voted for less genocide. You stood back and allowed for more genocide. Congratulations, those Iranian schoolgirls would be very proud of your heroism, if they didn’t get bombed by trump.

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                    Repeating your errors doesn’t make them any more true.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Lebanon_war

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Iran–Israel_conflict

                    Of course Israel had invaded Lebanon before (kicking off its deadly civil war the first time), but if you want to talk post Oct 7th . . . . you’re still wrong.

                    Oh. Did your heroic non-voting prevent the genocide?

                    I voted, dummy. I just didn’t vote for genocide support like you did.

                    Or did it just put trump in power for the above?

                    Considering I vote in NY, my vote has literally no effect.

                    Considering that there was NO state where third party voters would have put Kamala on top, your statement is even more ridiculous.

                    But I get it - you don’t want to actually change things, you just want to vote blue, go back to brunch, and think you’re smart for doing so. Which is why you’re changing dates to pretend that Biden didn’t eagerly ship weapons to murder Palestinians. And since you don’t want to actually fight, you’re angry at anyone that isn’t willing to pretend your vote was enough.

                    It wasn’t. Go build a floating pier.