Hi all,

question to you: How many of your selfhosted Apps are improving your life? Which apps are you really using on a daily/weekly basis?

Many of my running containers are just for … running containers.

Portainer, Nginx Proxy Manager, Authentik, Uptime-Kuma, Wireguard … they are not improving my life, they are only improving Selfhosting. But we are not doing selfhosting just for the sake of it? Do we? …

Many of my running containers … are getting replaced by Open Source client software eventually

  • I’ve installed Trilium Notes - but I’m using Obsidian (more plugins, mobile apps, easy backup)
  • I’ve installed Vikunja - but I’m using Obisdian (connecting tasks with notes is more powerful)
  • I’ve installed Snapdrop - but I’m using LocalSend (more reliable)
  • I’ve installed Bitwarden - but I’m using KeePass (easy backups, better for SSH credentials)
  • I’ve installed AdGuard - but I’m using uBlock (more easy to disable for Shopping etc.)

So the few Selfhosted Apps, that improve my life

File Management

  • Paperless NGX - all my documents are scanned and archived here
  • Nextcloud - all my files accessible via WebUI (& replaced Immich/Photoprism with Photos plugin)
  • Syncthing - all my files synchroniced between devices and Nextcloud
  • Kopia - Backup of all my files encrypted into the cloud

And that’s a little bit sad, right? The only “Job to be done” self-hosting is a solution for me is … file management. Nothing else.

What are your experiences? How makes self-hosting your life better?

( I’m not using selfhosting for musc / movies / series nowadays, as streaming is more convenient for me and I’m doing selfhosting mainly because of privacy and not piracy reasons - so that usecase is not included in my list ;)My only SmartHome usecase is Philips Hue - and I’m controlling it with Android Tasker )

  • louislamlam@alien.topB
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    2 years ago

    Uptime Kuma maintainer here. The reason why I made this because I have some services like databases and websites cannot be down for a long time. I need someone send a notification to me if they are down.

    If you think it is not improving your life, it is probably because you don’t have such similar scenario and you probably don’t need this indeed.

    My point is that it may be not improving your life, but it improves my life at least, or others’. That’s just a choice.

  • edthesmokebeard@alien.topB
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    2 years ago

    I don’t run any containers.

    I own my own data.

    I back up my own computers.

    My email is mine.

    You don’t need to overcomplicate it, it’s not a competition, and you don’t have to do what everyone else does.

  • z0r1337@alien.topB
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    2 years ago

    Mainly for privacy reason:

    • TeamSpeak
    • Seafile

    And something I find really useful: ChangeDetection, to monitor changes on webpages, like prices, stocks, news…

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    2 years ago

    It’s all shits and giggles for me. Whatever service I fancy gets spun up, poked at and then left running until I need to free up resources for the next thing. It’s a wonderful mess.

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    2 years ago

    Paperless has improved my life by at least 12%. There’s a “before paperless” era in my life when there was a 20-40% chance I would be able to find a sheet of printed paper that the bureaucracy of my country thought was more important than Life itself.

    Now, it’s a solid 100%.

    Nextcloud has improved my life by 3% I’d say. It basically does the same as Google. But I fell 3% better overall to not be so incredibly dependent on Google. If google imploded today, I’d still feel it because of Google Play Services on Android. But that’s pretty much the only thing.

  • j0hnp0s@alien.topB
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    2 years ago

    I’d say I am 95% homelaber and 5% selfhoster. Most of my stuff is for experimentation and learning. And most of my services are vanilla ones, like samba. So in essence I am self-hosting not much more than a few linux environments.

    The things that are indispensable to me are samba, my docker development stack, uptime kuma, and a simple wordpress installation that I use for notes and documentation. Oh and lately Stirling-PDF. That thing is just awesome.

    I have tried various tools, but I keep coming back to vanilla samba for most stuff. Like paperless-ngx. For my needs, it’s just a fancy way to tag documents. I don’t need full text search or OCR, and I can find most of my files quickly using a simple directory hierarchy. I do not really need the extra overhead of maintaining paperless-ngx. The same for things like Immich, plex or Owncloud. Samba and file explorer preview works perfectly for me.

  • NikStalwart@alien.topB
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    2 years ago

    I am legally blind. I got into programming and linux specifically so that I can improve my life, even though I don’t want to pursue an IT career professionally.

    So, the short answer to your question is: most of my apps really do improve my daily life. And a good many of them I wrote myself.

    Here’s a largely-arbitrary mind dump:

    • Windows, unfortunately, has the best on-screen magnifier, so I cannot entirely leave the platform.
    • However, most GUI apps and web pages suck. They suck in many fascinating ways that are beyond the scope of this comment, but I have found that some tasks are quicker to perform from a CLI than from a GUI. For instance, managing documents. I can write a shell oneliner faster than I can load a GUI app for bulk file renaming or whatever other thing people tend to do. I can tell gnuplot to produce a graph much faster than I can draw one by hand.
    • Until very recently there wasn’t a Dark Mode for word processors. So I’d just write Markdown files in VS Code and then convert with pandoc.
    • Math is much easier with scripting than with calculators
    • Text to speech is a lifesaver. And sometimes you need to write your own whacky scripts to scrap webpages and read them out to yourself.
    • I need to conform to academic referencing standards. Who’s got time for that? Nobody. Computers can do that for me.
    • Web scraping — some websites are so bad, the only way to use them is to scrape then convert.

    But that’s from an accessibility perspective and more programming than self-hosting per se.

    Now from reading your OP, I think it is an attitude problem rather than a selfhosting problem. uBlock Origin and AdGuard (blocky, in my case) are not mutually exclusive. You just need to know how TF to use them. Since I use uBlock in Paranoid Mode (basically a lite uMatrix mode with filterlists), I don’t need to block so-called tracker scripts at the DNS level. My DNS adblocker is only blocking ads. Ergo, things like shopping do not break. You are saying that it is easier to disable uBlock for shopping — but I can change DNS with one script. Just temporarily switch to 1.1.1.1 or something, and everything works. Where’s the problem?

    I’m not sure what your complaint is with Bitwarden. It is not exactly hard to back it up when it is running in docker, and easier still if you use vaultwarden (much simpler backend).

    You say that you use ‘Portainer, Nginx Proxy Manager, Authentik, Uptime-Kuma, Wireguard’ and they are not improving your life.

    I’ll agree on the first two, but maybe that’s just because I hate webuis with a burning passion. But how are Authentik and Wireguard not improving your life?

    Do you know why I use wireguard? I’ll tell you why I use wireguard.

    A long time ago, I needed to go to hospital. I also had a university assignment due the same day as I was in hospital. Thought to myself, ‘no problem, I’ll just bring my laptop with me; I’ve got Google Drive Sync set up so I can work on my files remotely’. So I check in, boot up, log in, and what do I see? Old files. Old files from three weeks ago. Why? Because Google Drive decided to go on strike and, in true GUI App fashion, displayed a tiny error notification in the tray icon that you would need a microscope to see. Naturally, being half-blind, I didn’t see it. So now I am, figuratively up shit creek without a paddle!

    So what do I do? Well, I deploy “KVM over Mom”. I ask my mom to drive back home — mind you, this is a 70-minute drive — and get her to bring my machine up. I walk her through getting into my machine and resurrecting Google Drive Sync. And then I spend 4 hours in the hospital queue finishing off my assignment.

    That episode taught me a few things:

    • Google sucks but I have to live with it
    • KVM-over-Mom is not a viable long-term solution
    • I need remote access
    • Redundancy is good.

    So, fast-forward a few months and I am using my dad’s NAS as a jumphost/proxy into our home network, where I can use wake-on-lan and RDP to connect to my machine. I have also switched from Google Drive Sync to File Stream (as it then was) so that my files are automatically available in gdrive. And that latter bit saves my ass some months later when my dad’s NAS has a disagreement with a kernel update and I can no longer remote in. We also have a hoard of Chinese bots hammering away at our internet-facing 16-year-old router, so that’s not great either. Also, ssh tunnels are neat, but are annoying to configure.

    Fast forward a few years and an Unspecified Virus of Unspecified Origin that temporarily obviated the need for remote access, I now use a VPN. In fact, me being a somewhat cautious person, I use several VPNs, for remote access into my home network. There is a vanilla wireguard “in case things with multiple moving parts break” tunnel and more convenient mesh orchestrators, although I have a hard time finally deciding between innernet and headscale.

    And does having remote access to my home computer improve my life? Yes. Most definitely. My home computer and server have much more storage than does my laptop. And sometimes you just need access to your copy of Hanks Australian Constitutional Law 12th ed, what can I say…

    The issue I see with many self-hosters is that they start with a solution looking for a problem as evidenced by the frequent “I am bored, tell me what to selfhost” posts we see on this sub. It is much better to start with a problem and try to solve it. Then you don’t have to have an existential crisis over whether you are hosting too many replicas of postresql…

    :wq

  • zn448sk39@alien.topB
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    2 years ago

    Little bit of both I suppose. I find it very enjoyable to have a server at home to tinker with, I’m also enjoying providing media to my friends and family (and myself). I don’t use many self-hosted apps outside of media though, really only nocodb, immich and memos

  • WiseCookie69@alien.topB
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    2 years ago

    I host it to have my own data under my own roof.

    • Nextcloud (everything from pictures, over tax stuff to my keepass database)
    • Matrix server (even more important with every government on this planet pushing against encrypted messengers)
    • PiHole, that i can also use via DoH from my phone
    • Traccar instance to keep an eye on my car, when it’s in for service / maintenance / when i’m abroad

    I’ve worked in the hosting industry. I’ve witnessed an internal breach, where an employee abused access over a few corners and fetched files matching a certain pattern from all customer VPSes (Virtuozzo container based VPSes have their root filesystem accessible from the host)

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    2 years ago

    Both. I have things that I host simply for fun, but most of my homelab is for experimentation.

    I practice with different technologies so I can try to learn how they work.

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    Pi-Hole, Nextcloud, local storage and email are used constantly. All bring great improvements.

    Ansible and Zabbix provide ‘support’ for these applications.

    Media streaming is a ‘nice to have’ but not essential. Wireguard is seldom used but still very important.

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    2 years ago

    For me the biggest is probably Jellyfin. Before, I needed to use external drives plugged into my TV, then browse them using the TVs file browser. I didn’t see which movies I already watched, or at which episode I stopped. When I wanted to watch something on my computer, I had to get the drive and plug it in there. The same for when I wanted something new. Now, I have Jellyfin running on my server, all the clients have access to it and I can watch my stuff whenever and wherever I like. It’s also easier to share something.

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    2 years ago

    Both, i like setting up the network and trying out selfhosted services.

    Definitely improved my daily routines:

    - Paperless-ngx, connected to my email. All my bills and purchases are backed up. So easy to find documents/warranty documents.

    - Nextcloud, for backing up my phone and personal life. Too much data for cloud providers and pivate.

    - Plex/Jellyfin, easy way to watch all my Linux iso’s without paying 10 different streaming services. Still subscribed to two steaming services though (family).

    - Adguard, lifesaver to browse the web without going crazy.

    - Immich, awesome photo viewer with mobile app.

    - Syncthing, awesome tool to sync data. Use it to sync my Obisian notes to all my devices.

    - Kasm/webtop, have my own OS in browser to access from any web browser securely.

    - Restic, tool to backup everything to Backblaze. You can use any storage solution.

    - Wireguard VPN, to easy access my services and have adblocking on my phone and laptop outside of my LAN.

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      2 years ago

      I have paperless running in a docker container on my unraid machine but it seems like it takes longer to use then what I used to do.

      I used to save all files to a folder system

      Docs -> Year -> date-sender.pdf

      Now it seems I have to manually do all of the coding. I thought that paperless, would learn who files are from and then categorize it for me, so that if I scan all my monthly bills and then 2 years later I need to find my internet bill for Dec 2019, I could just search for it and find it.

      While the search will work, it only works if I scanned it, tagged it spectrum and put the date on it. Seems like its more work to me?

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        2 years ago

        I run paperless-ngx in a docker container. Have it scan my email for attachments once a day. It automatically tags the email depending on keywords found in the email and sender.

        If I scan a document to import I tag it manually.

        But paperless-ngx also has ocr, so it will scan the whole page and save that data. So I can search for example ‘samsung’ and it will show me all documents where Samsung is in. Even if it is not tagged.

        My docker-compose:

        version: "3.3"
        
        networks:
          paperless:
               name: paperless
               driver: bridge
               ipam:
                config:
                  - subnet: 172.36.0.0/16
        
        services:
          paperless-redis:
            container_name: paperless-redis
            image: docker.io/library/redis:7
            restart: unless-stopped
            networks:
              - paperless
            volumes:
              - ./redis:/data
           
        
          paperless-db:
            container_name: paperless-db
            image: docker.io/library/postgres:13
            restart: unless-stopped
            networks:
              - paperless
            volumes:
              - ./db:/var/lib/postgresql/data
            environment:
              POSTGRES_DB: paperlessdb
              POSTGRES_USER: paperless
              POSTGRES_PASSWORD: super-secure-password
        
          paperless:
            container_name: paperless
            image: ghcr.io/paperless-ngx/paperless-ngx:latest
            restart: unless-stopped
            networks:
              - paperless
            depends_on:
              - paperless-db
              - paperless-redis
            ports:
              - 8002:8000
            healthcheck:
              test: ["CMD", "curl", "-fs", "-S", "--max-time", "2", "http://localhost:8000"]
              interval: 30s
              timeout: 10s
              retries: 5
            volumes:
              - ./data:/usr/src/paperless/data
              - ./media:/usr/src/paperless/media
              - ./export:/usr/src/paperless/export
              - ./consume:/usr/src/paperless/consume
            env_file: ./docker-compose.env
            environment:
              PAPERLESS_REDIS: redis://paperless-redis:6379
              PAPERLESS_DBHOST: paperless-db
        
        

        The .en file you can find on there GitHub. But the over important part is to setup a language for it.

        # The default language to use for OCR. Set this to the language most of your
        # documents are written in.
        PAPERLESS_OCR_LANGUAGE=nld
        
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      2 years ago

      Obisian

      Hey, may I ask what application you use on your smartphone to view the markdown notes?